This is technically a flanker family design (Su-27R) :)
Yes, these are LERX fed top intakes
What so an upside down Su27 binded to a F16XL style wing?
kinda, i have no idea why it’s called Su-27R but it’s neat, i guess
The weirder part is that this “Reconnaissance” craft is based of ““Su-34” project”
I mean the F-16XL had a crap load of hardpoints, probably same with this, so reasonable.
yeah, i have no idea why that it is, it’s just cursed
Yes, but… a recon aircraft? Based of a striker(Su-34)?!
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Could be one of the su34 proposed prototypes rather than what was latter chosen and known as Su34.
Whoa, whoa, easy there, buddy. I know copying is kind of a sore spot when it comes to the Soviets, but I didn’t mean literal copying - I meant repeating. Sorry, I phrased it poorly. And in this case, I was wrong.
I just remembered that supermaneuverability research programs were underway in the U.S. in the '80s, and the Soviets followed up with similar efforts not long after.
Is this an attempt to start a MiG-25 vs. Vigilante holywar?
no it is not it was a try to show your double standarts
But I don’t have double standards.
Soviets build plane with canards → copy
US invests in HOBS missile → nothing
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the flanker canards were not for supermaneuverability, the 1982 flanker neck nards were, the ones that left paper were to lower stall speeds (Su-33), keep the center of pressure at the correct spot around the center of mass (Su-30 and 34 especially) and vortex control on Su-27M
you can see this in the way they deflect in flight
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I might be misunderstanding the term HOBS, but programs for developing high-maneuverability missiles were launched in the US and UK back in the 1970s.
It wasn’t just about canards, but also thrust vectoring and forward-swept wings. IIRC, all of this research was part of broader studies into supermaneuverability.
and they were shelfed until they got scared from the r-73 + hms combo
and then they went on to develop HOBS missiles and HMD
did they put them into service?
did they deem the useful?
just pointing out they developed these a decade b4 the russians, they just didn’t deem them useful till after
TVC is cool for airshows but nowadays it is used mostly to make small corrections in supercruise and that’s kinda it
as for forward swept wings, the soviets had studies dating back to the late 1940’s but were deemed unfit for use because of the lack of proper materials that weren’t available untill the I-90 program came along and sukhoi drafted the S-22 project of which the Su-47 was the demonstrator
Strangely, sources say the ASRAAM program actually stalled due to the easing of tensions and later, the collapse of the USSR.