3D TVC was the F-15 ACTIVE program
s/n 71-0291 does seem kind of off since it was an F-15E prototype and i dont think it ever had the TVC, image probably fake
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here’s an image of it with 2d tvc, but this was all after 1988. this is 71-0290, the other 2d thrust vectoring image posted earlier is fake, 71 0291 NEVER had thrust vectoring
definitely a painting or something
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Source which seem to claim 1980s says 1990 as first 2D TVC flight.
Wayback Machine
AHHHHHH 405.
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that seems a bit too late for its impact on the ATF program YF-22 was being made in 1990
Well I mean the other one was 1988, also, the project was 1970s, which suggests it did have an impact, but as the focus was F16 F18 and F15 it was perhaps an upgrade attempt.
Me too. It seems that information is incorrect. Perhaps there was confusion with the X-29, which was indeed tested in the first half of the 1980s.
F-15B 71-0291 is pretty cool being the F-15E prototype and having that green livery, they should add it ngl. maybe along with a Soviet prototype of similar era
I know but I’ve also had convos here with people who got angry when someone called a Su-35S “Su-35” because they considered that only the early one with canards and stuff could be called so
So now I’m confused when someone refers to a canardless flanker as “Su-35”
What?
That has canards??
iam just blind on both eyes
all the Su-27M airframes and prototypes have canards
happy 405
you’re not
i didnt see the canards on the image i sent
i was saying that not all of them had canards
yeah, it’s at an angle where they hide pretty well, but you can see the lerx is not the same as the canard less flanker’s lerx
they do all have them
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why would they need canarads for that?
the base su-27 was already considered super manouverable to some extend and was so impressive at the time that people were analyzing its performance at the paris airshow
russia does something similar to what the US did so they must have been copying the US
please remind me why the US started to develop and pushed HOBS IR missiles into service
please tell me why the US started to develop the AIM-174 and AIM-260
please tell me why the US started to put more funding into the F-15 programm and why it looks very similar to this guy:
i guess the soviets had a time machine to travel into the future to make worse copies of american tech
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The canards for the Su-27M first emerged in 1982 and were to be mounted on the neck, above the LERX, completely different from any american project
They were then moved back on the LERX in 1985, turning into the configuration seen on the Su-33, Su-27M, J-15 and so on
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nah they put canards on their plane, which the US was also experimenting with
so they clearly copied the US
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yeah, right, cuz they can’t experiment on their own, TsAGI is just a smokescreen for intel work :)
gotta love it
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exactly the soviets would rather invent a time machine than doing their own aerodynamic research