That’s impossible, since the Su-33 prototype first flew in 1987, while thrust vectoring and canard research on the F-15 was conducted in the early 1980s.
First flew in 1988. (the canard was added after first flight, so this is the first flight after canard addition)
Nice 405.
what year, also i cant find a real image of it showing it in that configuration,
F-15B 71-0291
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- I don’t think that is a real image
- It received upgrades and was converted to a test bed before receiving a canard latter.
- Even if it is earlier than SU33, it wouldn’t be years until the Russian engineers find out about it, like how it took 20 years to notice T64.
Also this from wiki. Boeing: History – Chronology - 1988 - 1992 Sept. 7: The McDonnell Douglas F-15 S/MTD (short takeoff and landing/maneuvering technology demonstrator) flies for the first time.
3D TVC was the F-15 ACTIVE program
s/n 71-0291 does seem kind of off since it was an F-15E prototype and i dont think it ever had the TVC, image probably fake
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here’s an image of it with 2d tvc, but this was all after 1988. this is 71-0290, the other 2d thrust vectoring image posted earlier is fake, 71 0291 NEVER had thrust vectoring
definitely a painting or something
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Source which seem to claim 1980s says 1990 as first 2D TVC flight.
Wayback Machine
AHHHHHH 405.
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that seems a bit too late for its impact on the ATF program YF-22 was being made in 1990
Well I mean the other one was 1988, also, the project was 1970s, which suggests it did have an impact, but as the focus was F16 F18 and F15 it was perhaps an upgrade attempt.
Me too. It seems that information is incorrect. Perhaps there was confusion with the X-29, which was indeed tested in the first half of the 1980s.
F-15B 71-0291 is pretty cool being the F-15E prototype and having that green livery, they should add it ngl. maybe along with a Soviet prototype of similar era
I know but I’ve also had convos here with people who got angry when someone called a Su-35S “Su-35” because they considered that only the early one with canards and stuff could be called so
So now I’m confused when someone refers to a canardless flanker as “Su-35”
What?
That has canards??
iam just blind on both eyes
all the Su-27M airframes and prototypes have canards
happy 405
you’re not
i didnt see the canards on the image i sent
i was saying that not all of them had canards