Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

i’ll just accept that you are beyond reasoning and only want to spread hate towards Russian vehicles.

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Kinda funny cause the su34 radar gets the whole 200km range, meh we’ll have to see.

Also where extra 14 chaff/flare?

this author has some for SM, so adapting them for SM2 in its current form wouldn’t be too hard.

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Yeah but they would be missing the wing antennas, just that really😅

i hope for a solid Mihaly skin, really love how red, black and white compliment each other

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Stealth aircraft in the game have RCS multipliers for Front/Side/Rear-Aspect, so they can at least model that much

So you don’t accept what an advantage having ERA that works at every angle is an advantage?
You don’t accept Gaijin not modelling drag from hard points is not an advantage?
Because I would love to see drag added to suspended armament instead of oh it’s slightly heavier but can still do Mach 1.7 with 14 missiles…

This is quite promising

as long as it is modelled for every single vehicle regardless of tech tree - yes, i do not care. There are plenty of othe mechanics that give advantages for other nations as well, but i don’t cry on forums about that.

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at the altitude it operates at, I have zero doubt it can pull it off, honestly…

It cant Typhoon manages 1.4 with 4 missiles IRL.

war thunder has existed for more than 10 years why are u complaining about drag from hard points now and u are complaining about one specific vehicle while pretty much every vehicle has benefitted from this. including eurofighter and No you are not going to eject all your pylons to get to mach 2 cus that would defeat the purpose.

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If youre going to rework missiles, rework all of them, because R-77s still lack their max AOA which is right now half of what it should be. On top of that there subsonic performance and drag. 😁. I dont mind bringing the 120s and mica upto par, go for it. But almost every missile has their bug reports accepted for over a year and nothing has been changed except for the Mica seeker with angle half sensitivity getting buffed from 15° to 7°. So lets bump it up all the way.

And no one cared to talk balance when rafale was dominating for over a year single handedly?

Why the talk about irbis radar being broke? , when everyone all of a sudden is getting 100° +- radars (efts,gripen e)

You should have seen this coming, it was going to come anyway with the su35s. Well it just came sooner :) to crash your rafale meta party.

Atleast russia can appear more often that not on both sides for RB. Not as broken as france appearing on side and causing havoc in winrates.

Metas have always been there and induced, the game can benefit off of it majorly from a business point of view too. You guys just go on the russian bias route because cant stand of anything not nato being meta.

Tell me when was the last time the russian jet caused as much as havoc as the rafale did during its release? Or the F-15C? Or the the gripen A? Or the F-16C?..… wait mig29A but multipath was 100’meters. You guys remember that time? How many years was that back?

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They could just give it the stealth under wing missile pods. 10 missiles, and no need for HMD with powerful AESA and stealth. Just won’t be flying it the same as other fighters.

Likewise with the pods and as others have said, it is being tested with HMD so Gaijin can feel free to add it. They’ve taken much larger liberties.

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Probably one of the jets that people were anticipating the most for this patch together with the AESA Typhoons.

I’m almost sure the devs didn’t have the model ready for it yet, so they just went for the easy copy paste route (SM2), but with the downside that it was 100x more controversial than the Su-35 was ever gonna be.

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Yep, i can defo say they didnt have the model ready, and cuz of the su30MKM situation; they wanted russia to retain the best 30SM variant, so here we are…. Like i said before, even if it was controversial, internal bug reports were up for the engines as far as i can confirm. So bug reporter mods were also pushing it and overall gaijin had to give it something over the original 30sm, now we stuck with a su35 lite version lolol. Either way im enjoying the game.

There used to be days when you used to fear France being on the enemy team. Not anymore :)

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it still isnt

we are missing those dispensers

and there is one too much on the top

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so overall it is missing 14 CMs

Well we never gave a single jet 14 missiles.
Yet there is no draw back from carrying that many missiles.

Typhoon has ejector pylons, these reduce drag.

Sukhoi still uses older pylons with no effort at drag reduction.

Most pylons on su-30sm irl are ejector pylons

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R-77-1 is somehow superior to a later variant of a 120 in all aspects.

Rafale has been a problem so instead of balancing the game they added a new Su-30 and made it the joint best jet in the game. While Typhoon and F-15 have been well and truly left behind.

The AESA and an extra 2 120s are nice but 120s are the worst ARHM at top tier by a long margin and 9Ms are the worst IR missile.

As for the R-77 AOA well Gaijin also don’t manage how awful the grid fins are and why no other natiom persisted with them.

And brother please Russian jets/props have broken the game loads of times.

Yak 3/3U
MiG 15
La-200
MiG 19 lol
MiG 21 BIS
MiG 23
MiG 29

I remember the 21 BIS added, had it’s war emergency power mode modelled and R-60s could be used in all aspect.

23 yeah good luck getting near it in an F-4. Armed with 2 missiles that were a free kill and only when Gaijin decided the Radar and fm are overperforming did it become balanced.

29 R-27ER again facing Tornados and F-4s

Russia have never truly suffered in air mode.