Most pylons on su-30sm irl are ejector pylons
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R-77-1 is somehow superior to a later variant of a 120 in all aspects.
Rafale has been a problem so instead of balancing the game they added a new Su-30 and made it the joint best jet in the game. While Typhoon and F-15 have been well and truly left behind.
The AESA and an extra 2 120s are nice but 120s are the worst ARHM at top tier by a long margin and 9Ms are the worst IR missile.
As for the R-77 AOA well Gaijin also don’t manage how awful the grid fins are and why no other natiom persisted with them.
And brother please Russian jets/props have broken the game loads of times.
Yak 3/3U
MiG 15
La-200
MiG 19 lol
MiG 21 BIS
MiG 23
MiG 29
I remember the 21 BIS added, had it’s war emergency power mode modelled and R-60s could be used in all aspect.
23 yeah good luck getting near it in an F-4. Armed with 2 missiles that were a free kill and only when Gaijin decided the Radar and fm are overperforming did it become balanced.
29 R-27ER again facing Tornados and F-4s
Russia have never truly suffered in air mode.
Recessed ejector pylons that reduce drag and RCS.
Im not sure why youre so surprised about it tho? R-77-1 was a much more later missile 2015 v what like C-5 is early 2000s? Also ive said, and im pretty sure devs have constantly heard it about their underperforming pull performance but they wont revisit a single missile cuz they some what prefer adding new missiles and keeping the things the way they are( its why some nations got C-5s in their pov being a better missile and R-77-1 for rus, france i guess still needs Mica nG in service, idk why israel and china havent gotten a better missile yet) . Like yes buff and revert the fin aoa that got nuked, but it was done because other missiles didnt have any other aspect or saving grace at the time since amraam had quite a huge range performance. The only reason it became an issue this year is meta showed that missiles with better seeker or pull performance or both dominate because everyone learned to notch. But yeah go buff it and ive never disagreed w it, all the 120 threads guys will be mad at me for saying that but it shows how ironic when a game doesnt exactly line up in their favor they talk about buffing or revisiting the missiles.
They just gave eurofighters an esa and 2x more ARH missiles whilst still have insane cm and the best dogfighting model in the game lol. And then F-15C Ge got BOL+ the usual esa+ 4 more arh missiles. Its sitting with 12 ARH missile directly competing with the damn su30sm/sm2 in terms of total ARH pylons. All the su30sm2 is engine/radar upgrade, we didnt get any more missiles. Not an endurance upgrade which both american and eurocanard nations got and far exceed.
Additionally a superhornet, which i might add whilst maybe not the best bvr performance, statshark does show has quite a flight performance upgrade in the dogfighting sector. Great benefits there,
Like i said, metas have come n gone, but russian jets havent been the top meta for atleast 2 and half years but people all of a sudden have an issue when its russia. Threads like “Su30sm2 should be weakened” where was “rafale should be weakened” type threads?? Where were “R-77 should get buffed” threads, heavily underperforming? I know you acknowledge them but this is purely angering everytime we get something good the forums instantly blow up. Kinda fed up with that non sense.
And what about the R-60s/Ms too n their flare resistance get nuked to oblivion to the point now it sees 1 flare, 1 damn flare and its fully flared even with afterburner. Kinda wild to think such is the performance from where soviets went using that to R-73s with marginally improved seekers?
100 meter multipath was absolutely the most brain dead easy thing we had at the time. Dying to radar missiles was pretty much a free will. And today theyve nuked missile damage to the point its hit simulator( not relevant to the topic but just kinda wild to think about)
And both 23 and 29 fms today are almost near horrible to play with. R-60Ms on both flare eats whilst youre 2 little radar missiles getting mp’d or shrapnel/splash damage causing a hit simulator.
Overall point is, play either one nation n just be there for what it has to offer overall as a tree(what i did w ru, and will continue to do so cuz i dislike wasting time grinding other nations and didnt care if it was meta or not at the time) or play other nations and have everything at your will.
Making comments or talking about this or that is underperforming or over performing or “thats very superior” when you yourself have seen metas jets come n go, its just about time before another nation becomes a top dawg.
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People were constantly complaining that Rafale should’ve been nerfed, it’s on you for not noticing that.
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Constantly? They surely didnt make it as active as su30sm2 should get weakened threads did in a day of messages lmao. The hype or activity is always intense when its russian. Stop trying to tell me otherwise
And su30sm2 threads was active before the damn jet even came to live servers. People were freaking about it on dev. Remind where were rafales thread even remotely close to that level activity?
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funny thing is that such hype is possible only with RU vehicles.
IMO, it would be better to discuss about US needs a proper top tier (15ex) instead of making clones of topics about how OP 30sm2 is.
It’s not OP. It’s just a bit closer to top competitors, just deal that era of Rafaele stomping comes to its end (ye ye bois in the end you will be facing f-22s and su-57s playing ur Rafaele ;) )
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Literally the entire match spent flying at over 10km altitude at over 1800km/h
Two hits at 30km, and three above 19km
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Turns out when you leave your afterburners on all the time, lets IR missiles lock easier at wider angles
F-22s began being fit with Scorpion HMD at the start of 2025.
Along with that, F-22s finished testing a sensor upgrade, which should include IRST and MAWS.
But since it was tested on a F-22, by Gaijins logic they can give the F-22 MAWS, IRST, and HMD.
Here, this one works for the SM2.
I’ve just taken to doing it myself.
All you really have to do is copy a Su-30SM2.Blk into the skin folder, and then make the SM2 skin data route to the SM User skin.
(SM)
(SM2)
I haven’t really had any issues with any skins I’ve done this to so far.
Can’t wait to watch all these SM2 skins get broken once an updated model with the missing 14CMs comes out (So like, in 6 months).
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It’s not exclusive to RU, any of the Big 3 getting something clearly broken is going to make more waves than a minor nation getting something that eventually got buffed too much. Su-30SM2 was literally on dev performing amazingly while on dev, Rafale was mediocre and limited to much weaker loadouts. It took gaijin at least a few months to make Rafale broken. But once Rafale became top dog, everyone constantly cried about it. Again, your skill issue for not managing to see any of that.
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It was not, lmao. It was great on the dev server, it was just buffed to be even better after release
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pretty interesting, so new slats compartments are just texture on the skin, and not even a separate one.
No, I think the SM2 uses a different skin map than the SM, but since it’s so similar it’ll just glitch to a similar color.
The new slats on the UN skin is a diff shade of black, and on the Red 15 skin it’s a diff shade of blue.
Just altering the .blk won’t make a SM skin into an SM2 skin, it’ll have a few glitches and such…
But in game you’re not gonna notice, unless you’re staring at every inch of your skin in perfect lighting.
yeah, i used similar tweaks with some of the Bf 109 and MiG-21 skins
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Judging by how long it took for gaijin to fix Su-30SM canards, pylons between nacelles and wing roots, we will get 14 countermeasures in about 6 months from now on.
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??? Are you serious, where have you been for the past year? The Rafale(And MICA) are probably two of the most complained things about, on Reddit, Youtube, and the forum. The Rafale topic is up to part 2 now, with most of part 1 and 2 being complaints.
And yes, certain trees can rightfully complain when for example Israel still doesn’t have an AESA fighter, or the USA has to deal with probably the worst 14.3 in the game, both the Golden Eagle and F-18E are an absolute joke when compared to the Rafale or Eurofighter at the same BR.
Second honorable mention to the US tree now being the absolute worst CAS nation at top tier with planes, still missing GBU-53s when Spice have now been added to other nations that needed proper CAS, including the stupid 16 spice 250 loadout on the Gripen E.(Was refused last patch on the F-16I because apparently bad for balance? Okay)