Suggestions for flight sim joystick

I like how HOTAS WARTHOG is down side no tail ruder control but can set it up also a lot more stuff for keybinding.

There’s only a few out there and they’re now more expensive than ever, but force feedback sticks are the best.

I use this (though I can’t recommend it as everything else that comes with it is rather trashy - especially the throttles but also every knob has poor accuracy.

The Stick and force feed back are really nice. I use an X56 throttle for the rest and I do use pedals, currently I am using the Logitech ones that came with the G940 because my Saitek pedals broke, I’ll probably replace those eventually again)

I use all this:

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and I also use
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2 of these
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One of which is attached to this
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and I use this for some extra buttons and the brake pedal is how I eject (instead of using J)
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I have an X-56. It was really good, but hasnt aged well. After about 3 or so years. I probably need to replace it. Real shame.

Things like the Thumb stick has a lot of ghosting and a few keys no longer work.

Issue is, I use the dual throttles, so If I replace it, I need to find a good equivalent. Which dont really exist for the same price range

With your budget the obvious choice is the VKB Gladiator NXT. It’s an intermediate stick that will last you a decade without being extremely expensive.

It has twist grip so you don’t need to buy pedals and a mini throttle so you don’t need to buy a throttle. The mini throttle might look stupid but it works well. You can also just use incremental throttle in your keyboard.

More importantly, you can now spend money on head tracking which makes the sim experience work. I think Delanclip is good and cheapish. Apparently there’s phone head tracking solutions too.

I had a cheap stick first, then a Saitek X52, now a VKB stick and I think I should have gone for VKB stuff right away. It’s much more fun to not be limited by your gear.

The WinWing Ursa Minor might work too, it’s a knockoff of the Gladiator NXT.

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For totally budget head tracking. Download OpenTrack and AITrack (both of which are free) The combo makes use of a webcam. Worked fairly well even with my super cheap £10 webcam.

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Do want to note that you want good and clear lighting for the webcam one.

If you’re a goblin who prefers to exist in the darkest corners of the earth, do prepare to be disappointed.

I’m speaking from experience trying to set it up and being sensitive to bright lights.

Yeah, I can see that being an issue.

ok imma get the VKB but do I need a VR for it to work or can i use it without one

Z axis is useless

I have a cheap camera from the market, Xiaomi Imilab. In the evening I turn on the lamp that is behind the monitor and despite this there is no problem with the camera’s operation.

Thats why IR LEDs is used

I hate to say it, but there’s very little return on higher end flight controls for WT, as it’s not really a good flight sim.

If this is your first foray into flight controls, I would buy a middle of the road HOTAS so you can trial it before you commit to a bunch of money for a middling return

There is a distinct difference between ‘cup and ball’ and dedicated axis regardless of how you think WTs flight simulation exists.

Eh, outside of sim, pretty much any Logitech/Saitek/Thrustmaster would be fine for trialing joysticks.

Nice controls are nice, and immersive. But the cost to performance return is steeply slanted.

Wonder if itd work with console.

Generally they do not.

And none of the good ones do.

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Quite unfortunate. Id rather not have to get a T16000 but I suppose if its my only choice I may have to or just stick with controller.

Unfortunately you are probably better off playing with keyboard and mouse, or a controller than any of the sticks that work with consoles.

The X-56 throttle is the best damn throttle there is. It has two conveniently located analog axis which is a must. One for pitch trim and one for zoom. It has a shit load of buttons too. In fact I use a X-65F throttle, which doesn’t have any buttons on the base.

The best cheap Thrustmaster model is the Simtask Farming Stick. It has a load of buttons. TM16000 has way too few buttons.

T-flight X (with pedals but you dont need them)