14 to 12 on a f/a18c, also has a better radar and missiles + faster
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yes, but why does that matter? it’s the same point case as the j7w1, it has four of the best 30mm prop guns in game and yet the plane is a monstrosity. Su30 same thing. This ain’t stuff like 9.7 where harriers would slap mig19s even if mig19s were the best flying performers, just because harrier has 20g missiles and mig19 has no flares and no missiles. This is top tier 4.5gen RB where anything that is not an eurocanard (eurofighters and rafale) is utter bodoh babi.
Wild people can complain with this type of stuff.
Honestly I don’t really see a problem with the engines, I mean you won’t be a F15E and be able to blast into the stratosphere in 0.5 seconds, but I mean it’s still a pretty good plane.
Were people expecting the 30SM to be on par with like Su-37 or Su-35?
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In top tier missiles are literally one of if not the most important things. I don’t know what reality you live in where this isn’t the case.
Heck in sim top tier missiles and radar are basically the only weapon
Please stop embarrassing yourself on this thread, saying Su-30SM is bad really just points out a bad skill issue on your end
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no, we were expecting su30 to be on par with the rest of things at it’s br lmao
im honestly struggling to see how theyre justifying the upcoming engine buffs, the capabilities of the al13fp are very well known.
what i see in top tier is mostly people flying to stratosphere and indiscriminately flinging all their amraams off without defending, then of course they get slapped. I always launch one ARH at altitude at a target that seems to be the most oblivious, then defend and circle around while keeping missiles to my side, slowly turning and notching, turning and notching until i get into the center of the map and launch missiles from 10 to 15km away at isolated areas with one or two people.
such a weak missile, on such launch a aim120 would struggle to turn in let alone reach these speeds.
this video is also a testament to how good the radar on su30sm is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzTDxpcZeUg.
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that rafale wasn’t even defending. And perspective plus getting in front of the missile made it look like it was pulling 90 degrees. Cherry pick of the century, well done.
Literally the way to defeat r77-1s after their booster is gone in 20km launches is simply turn a little, the aim120 is SUPERIOR at tracking. The R77-1 is dogshit, period. You don’t even need to notch to make it turn away to the opposite direction.
Everything else that is not an eurocanard is utter garbage by a long margin.
“cherry pick of the century” was my first match in su30sm after your ramblings made me want to play it. and no it wasnt perspective it was a fairly tight turn.
“Literally the way to defeat r77-1s after their booster is gone in 20km launches is simply turn a little, the aim120 is SUPERIOR at tracking.”
its not its just less draggy, bu r-77-1 achieves much faster speeds which allows it to match aim120a/b in range.