The issue for the Tornado, is that it cant turn fast enough. By the time you actually start flying perpendicular, with any kind of meaningful speed, you’ve already been hit. This is in part an issue with the Placeholder Tornado flight model. In part the fact the Tornado is designed for low level, not high alt. It struggles in that respect. Diving is basically the only option, but it means the PGMs and GBUs are a lot less effective. you basically have to over fly the battlefield instead of using stand-off weapons. Which is the main advantage of the AGM-65 and KH-38.
Yes, though the Harrier has a much better FM to the Tornado currently. Also dumping 700 CMs as you dive helps a lot. Tornado only has 56 (though should be more like 1576).
There is something called Pantsir which is a great SPAA in game right now, able to lock and kill slower planes like su25 at 15km away easily. It’s the SPAA with longest range and it counters Su25sm3 hard as its survivability relies much on its engagement range.
It is also able to intercept rocket propelled air to ground ordnances with ease, due to its fancy nice AESA radar. So you don’t need to worry about “can do nothing but towatch doom KH38 fly in your face while Su25sm3 turned back to AF casually”
The only downside is:
Pantsir and Su25sm3 are both in USSR tech tree LOL
Pretty sure you can handle that small issue though :)
This is the entire problem. Whilst KH-38 and AGM-65 have comprable performance (though KH-38 has IOG and is faster) its the counters that are the issue.
They both have similar ranges, but most non-USSR SAMs have a range of about 8-10km, the Pantsir has a range of 12+km. Which means that whilst both AGM-65 and KH-38 can be generally fired beyond the range of most SAMs, there is 1 exception, soviets. so they have an overwhelming combination of SAM and CAS
AGM 65 and KH38 are not even comparable. KH38 is much more faster, has better lock range, got IOG, takes a high-throw ballistic, and is rocket propelled for its entire flight. KH38 is so much harder to counter than AGM65.
Did I even mention that KH38 has much higher kill probability than AGM65 (except AGM65G) due to its massive HE warhead.
And yes, Pantsir is the root of all evil. It was not supposed to be added into WT. WT was not ready for it, is not ready for it, and probly never will be ready for it. USSR tech tree had other SPAA options.
Pantsir comparing to other SPAAs now is like comparing T80bvm to Leopard 2A4.
