They didn’t introduced the hellfire L because being op, right ?
Yeah “hmm it can go through smoke and trees and buildings”
AFAIK the L version is same a the K, only with radar f&f, the R is the one going on smoke etc
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@AlvisWisla Yet again defending the Su-25SM3 by understating Pantsir range and overstating NATO SPAA range. 20km max range vs 12km max range. AGM-65G with a 13km max range 20>13km.
But still they’re not adding anything to the US except AMRAAMS and a new jet and a rat rank 5 light tank, anything else i very suspect its fake, also the last update nobody mentioned the israel black hawk got Spikes so i guess we might get something i have no idea, hellfires are in a bad shape atm.
At least you admit to coming in here to defend the Su-25SM3 and Pantsir.
Thanks for warning us of your affinity for Russian equipment.
Me: “All 10 tech trees need SPAA better than ITO-90M and Pantsir.”
“Is this defending CAS?”
Did you read what I said? I’m saying you are coming in chats complaining about SU-25SM3 to say that NATO CAS beats the SU-25SM3 by using biased data values in order to say Pantsir is weak.
I did read what you said.
I came in here criticizing CAS being OP, not defending it.
And yes, all SPAA is weak.
And now you’re accusing me of having NATO bias after making other false accusations.
lol
Just don’t even try to argue with Delusional Alvis, he’s literally an employee here, everybody avoid him so save your energy and let this guy work his shift.
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NATO CAS has been more powerful than Su-25SM3 for 2 years; Something I know all too well having been using said CAS for the last 2 years.
Bro genuinely do you read what you say? Because you’re saying that NATO CAS > SU-25SM3 when that’s a blatant lie like 40km missiles > GBUs/13km missiles. I’m saying you’re having a russian bias, because you’re saying that the Pantsir has 35% less range than advertised, so if we apply that same logic to NATO SPAAs they have a 7.8km range effective against jets.
Me: “All 10 tech trees need SPAA better than ITO-90M and Pantsir.”
“Is this defending CAS?”
You’re not just saying that though, and you make it out to be that’s all you say. You’re saying NATO CAS is better than SU-25SM3 when that’s false, and you’re saying that Pantsir is weaker than stated and NATO SPAA is stronger than stated.
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And btw take into account the fact that on certain maps airspawn is 13km. So where does that place NATO CAS? Pantsir can engage them as soon as they spawn, yet NATO SPAA can’t with Russian CAS.
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And he really bad at his job at that too lol
Think he know god damn everything about this game when he actually not know a damn thing and spreading BS
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Only really shakes on startup, but in an adenaline filled combat situation, the shaking won’t be noticeable.
People need to stop reading whats the max range on stat cards is and thinking it’s actually how it works ingame.
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Anatoly, you need to understand that if a SPAA has a max range of 5km and another spaa has a max range of 10km ingame theyre not both gonna have a max range of 3km. They’d both have less range yes but it’s a proportional decrease. If a missile has a max range of 40km and a max range of 13km. How on God’s green earth is the SPAA ever not gonna be outranged by the SU-25SM3 missile.
You are right in general, it’s just missleading. People think you can actually lock the KH38 at 20km, which isn’t the case, it’s more between 12 and 10km.
You still won’t die too SPAA unless you make mistake though.
Same goes for pantsir, wow, 20 km range, for manouvering target it’s more like 10-12 and god forbid they drop a chaff.
It’s still better by far to any SPAA ingame.
also 12 and 10km is still broken don’t you think? it can easily kill 6 tanks in one single spawn very easy, and rearm and do it again, vaporize your whole SPAAs, and heavy tanks, so yeah its still very broken alongside Pantsir.
It’s overrated. Every game ITO’s are racking up as much kills. Even in the stats they are basically the same, they even have better k/d.
Nato has far more capable CAP at the same time.
I literally said you wont die to SPAA unless you make a mistake. The missiles can be easily avoided if you are aware of them. If the enemy isn’t, you get easy 4 kills, not 6.
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easily fired at 20 km radius? i barely got a lock with sm3 within 15 km radius even with a clear sky and no obstacle (building, tree, smoke, etc). more consistent lock within less than 13 km radius, the destroyed tank and smoke will also mess with the missile tracking. well if u fly like a blind duck yeaa prob that pantsir kill u, i’ll smash those pantsir with f16 and gripen. mig29 smt? trash. su25t? yea atleast it can do something.
i prefer f16 or gripen all day
Spawn camp in a plane is the only answer.
Because the range on Kh-38s: map objects like fences/trees/foliage don’t render but can still block locks.
Longbows get denied and the JH-7s A/KD-88s were too long range for the game but shit like Vikhrs the Pantsir and now the 25SM3 Kh-38s get a pass
the handholding is absurd
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