Su-39 Current BR is unbearable ( 11.7 )

Im pretty sure you could use forum rules as proof. Discarding stuff because its not a moderators words or vice versa is pointless.
For laws, for example, you look into criminal code and other legal statutes not into what somebody wrote on the fence.

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You see, AI isn’t mentioned there
at all

So good luck

Not even the funny orange man’s rename of the word worked

Then AI part is pretty much closed. Also I think it would be weird to slime out bunch of people who use AI as better translator because it understands context better than standart google translate which still thinks that buying a farm means buying a farm and not something else.

And you aren’t spreading disinformation? Let me just make sure I got that right.

I have no issues with people using AI to translate
As long as what they say is still their words

I’ve encountered at least two people who didn’t even try writing their own thing, just shoved it through AI and C&P’d it here

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And how is October 2024 relevant?

Omg bro this guy cannot be fr. He really thinks BR changes from 2024 is relevant
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Updated Planned Battle Rating Changes (April 2026) - Official News, Development Blogs and Updates - War Thunder — official forum

Official april 2026 BR changes

can’t wait for mr uniqueScorpion to spin official Gaijin April BR changes as lies

Su-30 premiums weren’t even a thing then
Hell, was 14.3 a thing yet?
Or is it even pre-14.0?
I can’t remember

Oh yes I dislike that too. Like person comes to forum to share and view opinions, why would someone delegate this process to AI entirely? Maybe in case of suggestions hoping for quick easy profit in form of buffs but it looks so low effort and pathetic from other people perspective.

“Use of… any artificial intelligence… unless expressly authorized by Gaijin in writing.”

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There’s really only 1 way to interpret that.

Unless of course you have express written permission by gaijin, then I’d say you’re more than free too. But I’m no gaijin employee.

Before UniqueScorpion posts again, I’ll reitterate, since he seem incapable of thought, that posting 2024 BRs without context has 0 relevance to the discussion at hand and isn’t the retort he thinks he is

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Is it this tiring being a keyboard warrior holy shit. Also:

Using an AI chatbot to provide links to forum posts has nothing to do with this

I believe 13.7 was top at the time? If not perhaps 14.0

But that’s not why it was moved up.

I think that means content of gaijin stuff cant be used as datasets for AI models. Like there are pictures of cats which they own and owner of AI model cannot use them as samples for explaining his model what “cat” is.

Still irrelevant when 1. its 2 years ago and 2. Still does not address the crux of the argument that armament changes had resulted in BR change.

How about you address this for a change?

You made it relevant, because I stated the F-14 IRIAF was moved purely because of its performance.
You said “nuh uh” got proven incorrect, you doubled down, and were proven incorrect again.
Your burning hatred is indeed showing.

Buddy you’re so much dumber than TIGER_TANK_1 in arguments that it’s genuinely a pain to even hate you. You keep detracting to “uh but F-14IRIAF moved up bc of performance” and sure but it also moved up because of armament change but you seems unable to comprehend that two things can coexist?

Things can move up due to performance and loadout. I don’t know why you’re trying to act like IRIAF only moved up due to performance when the april 2026 BR changes is literally proof it moved due to loadout.

See image above. Again, you saying something it’s wrong is like boy crying wolf. It’s hard to believe you when you use outdated BR changes from 2 years ago and act with this pompous I must be right attitude.

Genuinely you need self awareness. That you’re unaware of why you’re so hated by everyone no matter where you go should be indicative that you’re in the wrong. That you casually ignored the April BR changes to push your narrative only shows the extent of your narcissism.

Like damn no wonder you get forum banned if it’s this annoying arguing with you. It’s like talking to a child with his ears plugged

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Open thread related to soviet vehicle.

Of course it’s UniqueScorpions

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Truly the tiger_tank of ground

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Ground Realistic Battles is already heavily compressed from around Rank VI onwards. Considering the ordnance available to it, the Su-39 is capable of outperforming most SPAA at 10.3 and below, while remaining relevant up to 11.7.

It is certainly possible that an 11.7 Russian lineup will encounter more uptiers than downtiers, but, in my personal opinion, balancing a vehicle primarily around the assumption that it will be uptiered is not a particularly sound way of approaching matchmaking. A vehicle’s performance in downtiers also needs to be taken into account.

Like other subsonic attack aircraft at these BRs, the Su-39 does not necessarily fit the current meta particularly well. However, that does not mean it is incapable of performing effectively enough to justify an 11.7 BR. From my own anecdotal experience, I have had games where a Su-39 achieved more than 10 kills in GRB using only its Vikhrs, including a game at 12.0. This is also comparable to the situation with aircraft such as the 11.7 Harriers and A-10C: they require considerably more skill and favourable circumstances to use effectively than faster aircraft such as the Tornado GR.1 or F-16A, but they still have highly competitive CAS capabilities (which in my book is between 3-8 kills per sortie when flown by a capable pilot). It’s simply a plane that requires more skill to use in this terribly compressed BR matchmaking.

Even when facing top-tier SPAA, I would not consider the Su-39’s ability to obtain kills to be particularly unrealistic or impossible. Conversely, a slight downtier can become extremely problematic because of the lack of available counters to ground players. You’re already extremely unlikely to face the 11.0 2S6-M1, which is one of the only decent counters, while most other SPAA below 11.7 have relatively limited capabilities against the Su-39. In practice, this can leave the aircraft highly resistant to interception unless the pilot makes a significant mistake or is caught by systems such as the Roland or Osa whilst not paying attention. Only the Tor-M1 is a platform that I’ve seen getting kills on Su-39 relatively often. But even then flying low and/or in cover already fixes that.

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Honestly that comparison is doing tiger_tank a disservice. At least his takes are amusing and in good faith.

Tiger tank may be the lord of bad air takes, baron of the touchscreen users (yes they have said they use a phone/tablet control scheme with the game streamed, i dread to think how that works) but they at least dont have the pig headedness to call disagreement “harassment” before being unpleasantly rude to whoever hes decided is a member of his hate club today.

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