completely agreed, its very good plane, but not at its current sluggish BR, every time i play 11.7 i hope everytime and am not uptiered to 12.7, which happens like 90 percent of the time.
They are very good but not at top tier afer the uptier ( 12.7 ) where all IRIST still intercept your missiles they have big radar cross section, In its original BR it was much better and suitable since there was no FnF IRIST neither Fighers with FnF air to air missiles at this BR ranges.
Yup personally i would choose the kh-29TE upgraded version since its more reliable than the ARM and does not loose lock when the target closes the radar and changes location.
Yup Khod thermal pod, including the Kinzal MMw radar Pod.
Just showing deltaV does not indicate r77 out ranges aim7f/m
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Wow thats a coincidence because thats what the missile is
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Just an anti-rad missile cant be justification alone, what else?
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That does not make it bad or justify nerfs disguised as buffs
Crazy, it’s almost like that’s supposed to happen when you’re uptiered
Shocker
As a proud owner of absolutely udnertiered and broken CAS mobile Su-39 - it absolutely belongs on 11.7, I would even argue it should be 12.0.
You have literally every instrument you need to deal with even modern SPAAs. You have decent speed and maneuverability, you have ARH missiles, and you have DIRCM in the tail which makes you immune to IRIS-T in particular lmao.
Also it is fair to mention - do you ever thought about people who play AGAINST Su-39 at 10.3 or even 10.7? Name ONE capable SPAA at 10.3 - 11.0 for any country that is not USSR. I’ll save you the hastle - there is literally NO capable SPAA to counter the Su-39. I would go even further - back in the pre-modern SPAAs and ARM - Su-39 was already virtually immune to ADATS/Ito90/Flakbus. You know how and why? Vikhrs, you just fly STRAIGHT on one of those SPAAs and just fire 3-4 Vikhrs, you just “parry” their missiles and kill them in the end.
So yeah, you shouldn’t think only about yourself, think about people at lower or even at your own BR who gonna be dealing with you.
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lol you are a su25, get real, you legit get neither of these things. You’re a tubby brick thats subsonic
no u dont why does everybody keep saying this
yeah if ur directly facing away from the irist, but they can just launch to the side or above and even then if its coming in from the rear, I’ve had really bad missiles just ignore the ircm in some cases in air rb so I bet the iris sometimes gets through
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Come back when you know what you are talking about.
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changing its BR to 11.7 is itself a nerf
I justify after the Uptier it gets to 12.7 Which wont make a difference anyway since its now basically a 12.7 strike aircraft, except you cant do nothing about the threats, have u even played this aircraft?
Its supposed to happen but not when it s at 11.7, it supposed to happen at 11.3 and NOT 11.7.
Couple problems here:
You listed an ARM missile, not ARH, these mean two different things. Very ironic for you to tell me I should come back when I know what I’m talking about. Your ego is funny. Especially when you mis-use a name and tell me I’m the one that’s wrong in an arrogant way.
As for su-25, there is no skill involved here, we are talking about the jet. It’s a tubby subsonic lard brick.
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Yep, sorry my bad.
Anyway, why are you talking about vehicle you don’t own?
And I did check your Su-25T you barelly played it as well(7 games).
No backpedaling. You tried to be arrogant and ego-talk down to me for you being wrong. lol
I own multiple Su-25s. The Su-39 does not fly any differently from the other Su-25s. Get a grip man
Su-25T is highly identical to the Su-25TM, the TM version is basically the modernization with more weapons and electronic upgrades.
So it wont make a difference anyway if he played one of them.
It had to go there
It was already good at 11.3 like the Su-25T and then got buffs
Ofc it was going to go higher
What?
It’s 11.7, not 12.7
this is a horrible argument because with that justification the Su-34 is now a 14.7 plane because it can fight 14.7
Or MiG-29N a 14.3 aircraft
Or tiger 2 a 7.7 tank
or Maus an 8.7 tank
He didnt list my regular Su-25 or Su-25BM either but ig because I havent played this hyper specific su25 that I dont know anything about it despite the fact it has pretty much the exact same FM as every other su25
Su-25T is the same As Su-25TM and its at 11.3 what u talking about? the Su-25TM is the modernization for only the electronic and weapons suite. which they are kind of horrible.
LMAO, i said after the uptier you silly, are you good bro? have been hit lately?
Your arguement is horrible because u dont have facts to include.
Thats on you.
Dont blame me for something u cant say.
Lol YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT IS SU-25TM its Su-39, and you WANT ME to argue you with someone who doesnt know what he talking about? thats funny.
