SU-33 Balance Discussion: BR Adjustment and R-77 Missiles

It is a better medium range missile than the AMRAAM anyway. Only downside is that you can’t fire them at multiple targets at once.

It never carried Fox-3 missiles IRL so no

definitely not, it isn’t that good for 13.0

its not too weak but you are greatly exaggerating its ability

Tunisia, Sicily, Port Moresby, Dover Strait, Denmark

Tunisia, Moresby and Sicily feel like the most popular maps for non-zomber gameplay up to 10.0. Idk about over 10.0

How is it not? Just compare it to the Su-27 and F-15A.

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A missile bus like the Su-33 should not be at 12.7, there’s simply nothing that can counter it at that BR

It’s not much better than SU-27 in the ways it is better, and its worse in a few ways as well to the su27, which itself is just a decent 13.0

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13.0 is just a nightmare br because of compression nothing really wrong with the plane itself but rather the environment its placed in.

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What I don’t understand is how it is 12.3 in Ground RB while the Eurofighter is 12.7. WHAT?..

13.0 is a very easy BR for me rn and overall the entirety of 13.0 is pretty well balanced. It’s literally that ppl just don’t know how to handle uptiers in anything they play tbh.

All Brs past 12.0 are only there for reasons of keeping these vehicles from lower BR vehicles

90% of my games are full up tiers against typhoons having the dodge fox3s the first half of the game and then if my team didn’t all die and its not a 1v5 then I can sneak up and attempt to get 2 or 3 kills. Even then, if the fight isn’t set up correctly the best you can do is draw because headons using a fox1 vs fox3 you are always at the disadvantage. with the f15A is relying on the aim9m and with the su27 its the r27et and r73. radar missiles are useless against a fox3 user because he can always fire and go defensive while you cannot.

It never had Fox 3 missiles so that would it would have been for a SU-33 IRL more or less

I know that and its fine if it doesn’t have fox3s the issue is how compressed everything past 12.7

Most of my kills in the F-14B and MiG-29SMT is with SAHR missiles.
Flying around the map behind terrain until the furball starts, then reappear to take busy players.
Works pretty ok, buy not very thrilling gameplay

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I do the same with the mig29smt. 2 r27et to use on sky climbers that I irst lock from behind. The 4 R77s can be spammed at close range on multiple targets with great effect. It’s a shame that it doesn’t get a long range fox3 because the mig29smt radar is wasted because even with its wide range keeping a lock to use a r27er is difficult

ACM mode and R27ER/AIM-7M will never stop being effective, but as you say you don’t get the same multikill as a Fox 3.
Still funny seeing unaware players panic as a F-14 locks you from 7-8 km, good luck notching that

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I’d agree if people were good but too many pilots are just ass and easy to kill honestly. Today I was playing F-15J and got a eurofighter with a sparrow just cause he let me get underneath him while he was doing his bvr stuff early game

The R-27ERs of the Su-33 are faster than any ARH missile in the game right now while matching them in range. If we were talking about something like an F-15 with Sparrows, then yeah, you don’t really have good odds.