Su-33 is just so much better FM wise though no?
i want it to be 12.7 please dont raise it
So real. Although the US is definitely the most popular TT so even though our jets are worse, more people play them. A prime example of this is the F-15 series. The US F-15A was worse than the Israel and Japanese ones. Same with the F-15C. Same with the F-15E (excluding Japan).
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Should be 13.3
why in its current configuration its fine id rather not have fox-3 all they need to do is decompress this just makes it worse stretch it to 16.7
In its current config, having 6 of the best SARH missiles, 2 of the best long-range IR missiles, and 4 of the best close-range IR missiles is a bit unbalanced. Of course, decompression is always the answer, which is why it should be 13.3. Maybe not in this current BR system, but I can definitely see it going up ASAP.
id say 13.0 since ER is still dodgeble f15A is same br BUT BIG BUT only if thhey decompress
I guess? One plane’s short run doesn’t mean USA hasn’t ran the game for the majority of its life, which is true.
No? F-15E one patch ago? Before that you had the F-15A/C also being meta or close to #1 meta (aka being #2 jets at worst) before that
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- The F-15I is better in every way except for armament where it is equal to the F-15E
- Your shifting the goalposts now, first it was US domination (which hasn’t happened since F-14A)now it’s being #2
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The F-15I weighs 31.6 Tons while the F-15E weighs 31.5 tons. The F-15I has more CMs (not that you need any more in an F-15).
That’s where the differences end, they are the same plane and saying otherwise is massive cope.
Engine covers reduce drag on F-15I
And yet it has the same performance
So equal flight performance, equal weapons, but more countermeasures.
That still makes the F-15I objectively better
Actually the F-15E performs slightly better in a dogfight
Max instantaneous of the F-15E is 36.2°/s at 789 kph while the F-15I is at 35.9°/s
Max sustained of the F-15E 22.6°/s at 1,041 kph while the F-15I is at 22.4°/s
Fair enough, but how do they compare in acceleration and speed?
Max static thrust and max thrust are the same, but due to the F-15I being heavier it has a worse TWR in both categories
F-15E TWR: 1.23, 2.02
F-15I TWR: 1.22, 2.00
The reduced stage of the F-15I lets it go 8 kph faster at sea level and 19 kph faster at altitude
The F-15E has better rip limits of -4.75/14.14 G while the F-15I has rip limits of -4.71/14.02 G
The F-15E is better in almost every category of FP
Fair enough, I still don’t think that slight FP advantage is going to matter since both are losing a dogfight to any other 14.0, but they were tied for first in the update due to countermeasure advantage on the I
What? No? What?
??? I literally never “set” a goal line. I am just telling you USA has always been #1 or #2 without exception and most of the time they’ve been #1. Being #2 is still being meta last I checked.
F-14, F-16 (one with aim 9Ms), F-14B, F-14 IRIAF, F-15
There’s quite a long list. If you even check the Win rates for when these vehicles came out + a few months, you’ll see that they were in fact dominating. I think the F-16C had the longest oppression over everyone else.
Wasn’t the best F-16 not American at first?
And I’m pretty sure the F-14B wasn’t that oppressive since by then ppl would have figured out MP.
IRIAF was very good in down tiers (like almost any jet) but against other 12.7 (on release) it is far from unkillable, same in an uptier.
Didn’t same thing happen with F-15 too where best one wasn’t in US. I know Japan one was heavier than F-15A but had better missiles, and when the JM released it was not only lighter but had more powerful engines.