Indeed, 9Ms are actually harder to flare on accident.
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it was a better m4k which was at 12.7 it was always under BR’d since its stats were terrible despite it being like the 3rd best FM with 4 great and 4 alright missiles
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i got the F15A after the 15C had been released, and it was still unbelievably easy to fly, people bring the stats down and then cry its bad.
Just ignore him, I quickly figured that out
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You forget the multitude of ahistoric nerfs to Gripen because major nation players cried, the ahistoric changes to bol that shafted everyone, etc
And even with those nerfs it still dominated for roughly 6 months and was still highly competitive for multiple more months after ARH missiles were added.
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Maybe It just Brits and Swedish pilot being better than most major nation that why it need nerf
lost count how many time I encountered SU-27 and F-15 coming to dogfight my Gripen knowing to well how it gonna end
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No sorry their K/D didn’t go from 1.5 at most on anything else to 4 on the Gripen exclusively because they’re such good pilots. Gripen on release was incredibly broken.
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Su 30 SM appears to have lost the noncooperative target ID rubbish on the new dev server.
welp it was fun while it lasted no more pi hunting
I remember DEFYN speaking about this as well. Mediocre people that suddenly started being really good while playing the Gripen is suspicious.
IIRC he said that Gripen was one of the most handheld planes ever added to the game.
People complain about RU bias, but back then it was SWE bias more than anything else, which is further amplified by the fact that’s a minor nation lol.
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No change to Su-30SM.
Still a Mirage 2000 to F-16C, but in this case it’'s comparable to F-15.
Slower to accelerate, but more equal in flight performance than dissimilar.
@flat_Lander1
Instead of insulting people for stating basic facts, maybe just be kind to others.
No one is insulting anyone, i’m saying that all you do is stating whole bunch of nonsense and maybe you are playing some other game that is not War Thunder which everyone plays
That claim only really works when he ignores that people were using very substandard platforms compared to the competition, then received a platform that was on parity (until it got nerfed past even the least credible documents) designed for situations that present similarly to war thunder. Shock horror, they did exceptionally when given a platform that kept up.
But hey, I’m sure people will continue to take Defyn’s word as gospel in spite of him being insufferably wrong about “oh this thing is performing inaccurately because I don’t like how it performs”. Gripen was fiddly to defeat with F16 on the dev server for it, but it was manageable, even for me who hates the F16 and plays ground attack primarily.
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Funniest part is that the F-15A can carry BOL, and has
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And? I didn’t talk about the F15?
And most folk want the yanks to get it so gaijin pull their thumb out and fix the implementation.
Ppl wouldn’t have cried if they just gave F-15A BOL
I want it because it’s what we had/have
Why would the F15A be the only thing to get bol? Why are you trying to drag a plane into discourse it is irrelevant to? I get you’re a yank, but come on.
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And he was right. You could turn off your radar, turn on periodic countermeasures, send it into a furball and come out with as many kills as you had missiles, while being nigh invulnerable since the ‘secondary’ CMs were just as strong as regular ones and you had a near infinite supply of them.
“Parity”: outdogfights everyone else unless you’re a HUGE tryhard and use the best handling F-16s (which don’t get AIM-9Ms while the Gripen does), is one of the fastest fighters around, with incredible maneuverability and energy retention, and the most amount of CMs of them all.
And you couldn’t get radar missiled since multipath height was 100m and they’d all miss.
Yeah no, Gripen was stupidly OP and many more than just DEFYN said it.
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