Su 30 MK 2 is literally flat out pay to win

Buying the kfir canard and bombing to TT while losing every game isnt pay to win.
Its pay to progress faster… same thing can be done all.the way to TT with no premium - just half as fast.

Wheres tbe win?

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you choosing to use a plane in the wrong manner in game mode is nothing to do with gaijin or P2W
Draken is at 10.3 it is objectively the best 10.3 in game right and is pay to win.

I just used the kfir as its completly outclassed and is uptiered like all at 11.0 majority of ganes. Which leaves it 1 legit tactic- Multipath bomber …

Gets you to TT with no wins or kills required

This tactic can be used with most premiums so again- wheres the win?

what out classes it other than maybe the J7E

Using the vehicle for a role it’s not suited for at the BR is not again taking away from the P2W of it. You can do that with the J35XS that doesn’t negate the fact it’s got one of the best FMs, to loadouts for its BR.

The kfir canard fights most games vs full radar slinging lobbies (11- 12) I wish it didnt like but thats the reality of 11.0.

Gets slapped like everything off f5s. Maybe can beat a mig21? Doubt it but feels like it would be close

Blind to mig 23 so cant fly high- the one thing its actualy good at. Its borderline pay to lose.

Su30mk i dont have but i do have the j11a. J11a was the worst 13.7 and is now debatably the worst 13.3.

The only jet i can think of that is pay to win is mig15 bis ish. That 8.0 Match maker compared with 8.3 is a different game

I don’t get how you can say j11a is unironically the worst 13.3 when it utterly slams lobbies at that br

Theres isnt a bad 13.3

They all have 6 good missiles

Mig 29 is probably the only one thats around equal… but radar and RWR stil wins overall IMO.

The 4 r73s that it gets as an extra… you can keep and il take the FM of the f16/ jeff and use guns.

Its not pay to win its garbage in uptiers and slaps in down- same as most other jets in the game

I use the mig23M at 11.0 with a worse RWR, worse FM, worse speeds.
Worse guns.
only 12 Counter measures.

The Kfir slams every F5 it can come across just about

I am sorry what? Want to see my last ARB match with mig23s in it? i went 7 player kills and 3 bot kills with an F5 which is blind to mig23s , 3 of the 7 kills were mig 23s, one being an MLD not an ML.

The KFIR Canard is a good 11.0
(I want the F5C to be 11.0 as well btw)

Scuse me? what? xD
how is it the worst 13.3?

ah okay.
the J35XS is literally P2W right now.

The KA50 at its release was that OP it ended a game mode xD

Its not pay to win tho.
Other 10.3s are equal or better

Everything else you wrote is just a good game/ luck.

After i bought the kfir i thought it was shit so asked willy walrus when i seen him on a discord to rate it- complete garbage or something like was his reply. I asked him at same time if it beats f5s and if its just a skill issue on my part- never beats F5 …

J35xs is equal to what??

Mig 21, f8

What is tbe worst 13.3 then?

Since we have the F-16 ADF at 13.3, the Kfir C.10 at 13.0 and the J-8F now with IRCCM missiles at 13.0, I can’t consider this pay to win. Not forgetting the Su-34 at 13.3 (worse flight performance but gets 2 more missiles?). At 13.7 this would be pay to lose. Maybe nerf it artificially by removing 2 missiles?

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Scuse me the F8U2 is miles worse tham draken what are you on about.

The Mig21 that is comparable to the draken is 11.0
Ythe 21MF is far worse than the J35XS 😂

6 X aim9P banging FM
Only issue it has is low CM count.

No RWR is a massive issue.

F8 wins the 1 vs 1? Dunno.for sure unless the j35 gets it in the 1st turn i dont see how it wins.

Also the f8 can fly high and rain.from 4km…

Agree

I keep asking what is the worse 13.3 as i keep being told its not… no answer. Says it all. People just cry for no good reason.

Tornado F3 late Is the worst 13.3 unless im forgetting something even worse

I think worst 13.3 is quite easily the mig 29 smt. That thing is horrendous

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That’s 13.0

Ah true, i was stuck on sim brs

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What??? the J35XS absolutely smokes the F8U2 unless you play an energy game with it.
even the you have enough generation to absolutely smoke it.

how are you losing to an F8U2 in a draken.

As much as i like the SMT and can make it do what it needs to do it absolutely is not that great