Su 30 MK 2 is literally flat out pay to win

As usual Gaijin blessed us with a plane they knew would over- perform. As usual, russian.

So far so normal.

However, never before was a plane broken op in all game modes. It is broken op thanks to its cas loadout. The Tornado they just added it at the exact same ground br but cannot turn, has no useful anti air capability and WORSE AIR TO GROUND WEAPONS. This is because only russians are allowed op self homing weapons, not the british and other nations using their weapons.

And onlike the tornado, the su30 is also super easy to use in air battles, so easy that, say, if a complete noob got it, he could still almost get a kd of 1 right away.

Gaijin MUST have been aware of this before adding it.

So please, instead of closing this, dear mods, either give a proper statement or adjust the pay to win planes BR in both air and ground battles at once.

Even the content creators are calling your recent pay to win battle rating decisions a complete joke.

Sincerely,
Someone who was around when actual humans with passion said “we will never add top tier jets as we don’t want people buying their way into the best vehicles”.

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RWR is meh, plus only 2 radar missiles per time and it is super heavy
edit:
they just should nerf the total Fox-3 carry capability

What did you expect?

I cant think of a single soviet premium that isnt P2W

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Su-25K, Yak-38

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amazing. It fights planes with way worse both. It fights some planes that still have no fox 3.

so? Fakour at 13.0 doesn’t worry you?

su25k, blatant op. Used by clowns which is why it doesnt appear so, same as the a10.

The yak is balanced nowadays

Su-33 got no fox-3 at 13.0 btw, F-15 too

You mean the one semi decent weapon on a horrid airframe that doesnt even get useful ir missiles?

It is annoying, but cute that you had to pull the whataboutism card so fast.

see?

Su-25K is an 10.3 all-aspect slinger and the S250 rockets make it a pain in the butt CAS aircraft in GRB. Not too mention they are annoyingly tanky to shoot down.

Yak-38, maybe, though gets 4x R-60 at 9.3 where the direct equivalent the Harrier Gr1 is 9.7 and the SRAAMs have only just gotten to be better than the R-60s

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just for record, i don’t pay USSR, however i had no issues with destroying SU-30MK2

probably one of the more fair premium recently added. clovis, t58, turm , t72av ecc… are better exampele of ptw veicles

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My single biggest issue with it is missile count.

Sure, some people might claim mid RWR and mid radar, but argument that MiG-29SMT is 13.3 anyway cannot stand.

SMT can carry 6x missiles total. That leaves its tactical choices somewhat limited, and its kinda balanced.

But the amount of missiles on Su-30 is what, 6x ARHs and 4x IRs on top of that (not at PC right now so cant check)?

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You forgot that the Yak has, and always has had a considerable worse airframe. I’d also argue that the A-10 is more egregarious than the Su-25.

The RWR is good, but what does the 2 radar missiles part mean?

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i mean… the tech tree one is straight up better so its not p2w at all

aw hell naw, id rather have a harrier than a goddamn shitass yak

a truly p2w plane is the mig15 bis ish - just look up my kd on it :)

Looks right to me

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“OP Kh-29T’s”, that’s a new one

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sorry for the language, but bottom 2nd Rocket targets, amount of targets jet can track while shooting Fox-3
for comparison Viggen DI can track 4

13.3 should have never been added 13.0s are now stuck fighting FOX-3 R77s and alike 24/7 now