For long range, AIM-120A/B is better for maneuvering targets but the R-77-1 isn’t far behind, I think the AAM-4 is slightly better due to speed?
For every other range, AIM-120 is decent. R-77(-1), AAM-4, PL-12 and the forbidden MICA are all much better in every statistic. Don’t get me wrong, the AIM-120 is a great missile but “one of the best” is not how I would define it. AIM-120Cs are pitiful and AIM-120A/B are only slightly better at long range and noticeably worse than most Fox-3s in every other range.
Also want to say that I’m not here to say Su-30MK2 is pay to win, I don’t see it as an issue personally.
True (neither is AAM-4) though the PL-12 is. The R-77 is still better in most statistics. The F-16A ADF is not very good at BVR (low CMs) so where the AIM-120 has the advantage over the R-77 and PL-12 is not really seen from the ADF.
The Gripen has been the vehicle I’ve been using a lot recently, I got it from a negative KD to a positive KD (1.25~), and I use 4x AIM-120s + 2x 9Ms. That obviously doesn’t mean much but it shows I’m not as inept as I used to be!
I also didn’t say anything along those lines… I just said the AIM-120 is not one of the best Fox-3. It is not bad and doesn’t need a buff (atleast AIM-120A/B), but it is not near to the best. It is certainly the best long-range Fox 3 but is meh at medium range and bad at close range.
Aim120 is substantially better than R77 in every scenario bar extemely close ranges 3-7 km
What? The platform itself is fantastic its a block 15 F16 which is lightwr than the C and D variants with access to amraams.
The Kfir C10 is worse FM wise and i have only 2 ARH on it.
I can finish a match with countwr measures left with 72.
The F16s get what 60? Which is fine…even 45 would be enough, you just have to position properly
As far as I’m aware, AIM-120 is better at long range, they’re similar at mid-range and R-77 is better <10km
Doesn’t make it good at BVR. The C is much better at BVR now with the thrust buff, the A is better within close-mid range, where the R-77 is better or similar.
Hence why i said 3-7 .
10km gives them time to dodge it or prepare for it.
77 1 is a huge upgrade on the base 77.
The lighter air frame still makes it more maneuverable in comparison to the C and D variants.
Which in fact does help in BVR allowing to lose less speed while cranking and or nothing.
As well as this the 16adf sits lower than the 16C, it fights more targets which have no access to ARH missiles.
The 16 block 15s with amraams seriously shook up the rosters a lot.
12.7 is nearly impossible to get a match against peers with comparable missile sets and or platforms.
the mirage F1 is a pretty solid plane?
this stuff about it being a brick is pretthy BS TBF, it’s one of if not the best 12.0 premium jets in game.
it beats a mig23 In a 1v1 if you actually fly it properly.
Not really.
Ive had it since it was introduced, it was like a flying train car back then.
It’s had nothing but FM buffs since and is actually extemely nice to fly, against its peers it’s absolutely a solid air frame.
Mig23ML
Phantoms with agile eagle
Even mig21s
F5s etc.
The only thing you really need to worry about at 12.0 ir lower is the J7E and even then.
Doesn’t help that a mere 0.3 above it is the F16A and F18A which crap on the entire 12.0 and dowk roster.
I’m sorry but I will definitely agree it’s OP at 13.3. I dont have it but i have the j11a which is a straight upgrade to it for arb and it utterly dominates at 13.3, so a slightly worse j-11a at 13.3 is just insane compression for no good reason when it should be at 13.7 just like how the j11a was on release and the su-27sm is currently. It’s essentially a slightly worse su-27sm on release
