Su-27 lower br to 12.7 in ARB

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I mean range yes, but higher the range the easier it gets defeated by flares.

I’d shot off R-60Ms under 1.5 km making them very hard to dodge and because they are 30G missiles unlike AIM-9G on British Phantoms that can pull max of 18G, The R-60Ms can actually pull out to enemy and not simply not being able to reach.

That’s why I said 9L it’s similiar to R-60Ms I didn’t neccessary used that it’s worse, but similar they both are 30G, they have their strenghts and weaknesses such a 9L doesn’t get “Jump-Start” from rail like R-60Ms but trades the range for it etc.

After all it’s still IR missile and if u are know what u do u can avoid them completely Or in the opposite make them deadly.
Positioning yourself it’s just a key with both of those missiles.

Imma call it a day, since there’s not much else what either me or u can say about it.

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Off-boresight locking abilities for one, which is hard to in low altitude fights (bad radar) and IRST which is below nose.

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I agree, UK jets are in need of this, but not say, F-4S. I’d also like to see the FG.1 drop to 11.7 and not receive 9Ls so that there is a difference between FG.1 and FGR.2

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That’s what I would like to see also since FG.1 didn’t carried 9L only FGR.2 and F-4J UK.

I never ever tought that somebody ever would think that F-4S in it’s state would need Aim-9L like those British fellas needs.

F-4S it’s overall good plane since everything on it it’s decent or good.

While on British ones not quiet straight forward especially F-4J since it’s straight downgrade from FGR.2, even worse RWR alongside Engines.

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Both have R-24 and all aspect R-60M/R-60MK

Aim9G is a rear aspect only missile with a delay in tracking time off the rail they do not pull anywhere near the G the R-60 does.

Aim9L are still very easy to flare having no IRCCM but would allow Phantoms to have a missile that can be used all aspect or higher off boresite

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how many times do i have to tell aim9ls are so much better than r60ms and nothing will change untill they fix this BR issues.

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That may be the case, however the 9L can be as easilly flared as the R-60M
The R-60M is faster off the rail and pulls more G.

The gap between the R-60M and L is closer than the gap between the G and the R-60M

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If u use 9l rear aspect with in 2km 9/10 times missile gonna ignore flares. I used both missiles trust me 9l are so much better than r60ms

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9Ls do not have any resistance that R-60ms also dont have

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Screenshot 2023-05-04 142519

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A 18g( it’s 18 right?) missile the same as a 35-40g? Cmon man, they’re not even the same. Once I learned about ARH I can probably count the amount of times on one hand I ever died to an aim54 again. Not even close to the same thing as an aim120 even if it’s an ARH.

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Thats IRL
Not in wt

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well it work in WT too. I used r60m rear aspect like 100times. I never seen single time it ignore flares

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The 9L’s gate sure helps

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Things like the Phantom FGR2 fighting them at 13.0 is stupud. 12.7 is just insane. R-27ERs are still OP and it has a LOT of them

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Sure, doesn’t work like that in game though. Both missiles have the same resistance.

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If it went to 12.7 it would just slaughter 11.7/12.0

Eurofighter just has to go up to 15.0

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F-14B at 13.0 with 9L

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Fox 3’s are Fox 3’s my guy, doesnt matter what they pull.

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nah, phoenixes are not comparable to normal fox3s and neither are fakours really