M8 this is literally what I said, that decompress isn’t going to fix anything of problems but make possibly more of them
then what about MIG23MLD and MIG23ML . if phantoms gets aim9l they have to go to 12.3
MLD is very decent on 11.7, especially R-24Rs are still incredible missile.
ML does struggle a bit compared to MLD but it was always this way with those 2.
And I don’t think so making such a bad vehicles even higher in BR as they are right now will result in anything, since on 12.3 U have literally MIG-21 Bison with missile kit better than anything found in this range.
Overall I can blindly shoot that U will not even found difference if those would be added since like I say I guess there are max 1/5 of what MiG-23ML games per month are in British Phantom.
And also I don’t think this would fix how badly performance are Phantoms, they are only good on HDN if u manage to pass them further, u shouldn’t have an issues killing them.
except proper decompression literally fundamentally solves most balancing issues?
not really? depends on the phantom. some could get 9L and stay 12.0
R-24Rs are incredible missiles until u actually use it and u get only 2 of them. and r60ms are useless.
sounds so unfair to me
Its really fine at 13.0, if anythinng it should move to 13.0 in sim.
I’d only talk about FGR.2 and F-4J(UK) as there are in game hidden presets of 9L for them but never was added for audience because when they were 11.3 it could be a bit broken to see them against flareless jets.
But nowdays they can face either 13.0 or 11.0 which shouldn’t cause issues because 9L are still easily flarable they aren’t as good as they were since nerfs, and they aren’t and IRCCM missile to make them stupidly broken.
They would be simply similiar equivalent to R-60Ms
really m8 ?
They are always guaranteed 2 kills if u use them right.
And R-60M aren’t useless if u actually shoot them rear aspect especially against un-aware Base bombers, or even F-14s since they engines after bruner is so hot missiles don’t usually give a mind about if he drops flare or not.
Yes they aren’t phenomenal if enemy is using flares so it’s an other missile that’s not IRCCM on this BRs.
Also u don’t take in mind that Both those MiGs accelerate really fast, and version of MLD have actually decent RWR as well workable radar, because ones in ML are just serviceable, they aren’t great but u are able to work with it since u have missiles that will do most of the work anyways.
Idk I don’t have issues in flaring both of those missiles, just drop few flares turn off after burners and don’t fly cold to them.
F-15A performance at 12.7? NO!
Get good.
aim9ls are so much better than r60ms. they have better seeker, good range , good flare Flame resistant than r60m.
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Haha, no
And R-60’s aren’t the best missiles it carries, so you can’t base your whole argument about it.
yep idk about mig23ml but mig23mld can carry r73
Probably not, and you can’t use the R-73 to it’s potential without “Schkval” HMS and a PD radar, let alone below aspect IRST.
wdym its a IR missile.
I mean range yes, but higher the range the easier it gets defeated by flares.
I’d shot off R-60Ms under 1.5 km making them very hard to dodge and because they are 30G missiles unlike AIM-9G on British Phantoms that can pull max of 18G, The R-60Ms can actually pull out to enemy and not simply not being able to reach.
That’s why I said 9L it’s similiar to R-60Ms I didn’t neccessary used that it’s worse, but similar they both are 30G, they have their strenghts and weaknesses such a 9L doesn’t get “Jump-Start” from rail like R-60Ms but trades the range for it etc.
After all it’s still IR missile and if u are know what u do u can avoid them completely Or in the opposite make them deadly.
Positioning yourself it’s just a key with both of those missiles.
Imma call it a day, since there’s not much else what either me or u can say about it.
Off-boresight locking abilities for one, which is hard to in low altitude fights (bad radar) and IRST which is below nose.
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