One of the main things that’s been noted since the update is the rather mediocre flight performance of the Su-27, leading one to even say that it’s one of the worst airframes that came out of the update, bar the weapons. Obviously, up to 6 R-27ERs (whose effectiveness is up in the air given the current lawnmower meta) and 4 R-73s makes for a powerful mix in the 16v16 shitfests of Air RB, but once you’re out of missiles, you’re similarly out of options to do anything, really.
The main issue observed currently, along with other things people have noted (acceleration, sustained turn, etc) is how easily/quickly it loses energy, needing only one relatively hard turn to start falling out of the air. People have also mentioned that with full-real controls, the Su-27 feels more alive, more responsive, whatever you’d like to call it. Thus comes my question: Is it the flight model, is it the instructor being fucky, or is it both?
I have no illusions about the Su-27’s capabilities, and I understand it’s a very large aircraft and as a result, is pretty damn heavy as well. That being said, the current representation in game, that being reminiscent of a fat MiG-21, is more than a bit off the mark.
In any case, I do hope Gaijin does something to fix the Flanker relatively soon. I obviously can’t say I speak for everyone that flies Russian planes, but I’d be willing to exchange the number of R-27ERs it’s allowed to carry (if at all, if it came down to that) for an improved flight model, anything that doesn’t feel this gimped.
Have not obtained it (103K RP left). I have tried it in test flight.
It seems like the flight performance in high subsonic speed is too bad and it is difficult to maintain the optimal substained turn rate (it keeps losing speed/altitude), which is wrong.
Edit: have obtained it. Not interest to purchase Su-27.
This chart also provides information about behaviour regarding speed and drag, it’s not as much of a difference.
Oswald efficiency is a variable that can be measured on 3D model and succesfully estimated.
Here is how to do it. Should be around 0.7 i believe, but propably this is one of a balance factor for the aircrafts so in this case:
WELCOME IN BALANCE FACTOR PIT, YOU MAY JOIN THE OTHER 9 NATIONS THAT WERE HERE FOR YEARS, TAKE A SIT RUSKIES!
i feel as if instructor needs a massive rework or remove, the mirage 2000 is able to pull a circle consistently at like 250KPH but instructor limits it to pulling at 310, which fucks people up in fights
same situation with F-16A/C where instructor limits too much, cutting the low speed aoa up
the instructor for energy retention fighters like the su27 and F15 lets them pull wayyyyy too hard so they just dump all their speed, and since the F-15 (haven’t looked at flanker yet) is still underpowered by about 2.4KGf in each engine it would kinda explain why it loses speed so hard in one turn, possibly same with the flanker
Get rid of 7f and m also do not forget about aim54 if you are already asking for removal ah ye remove also f5c flares and do not forget to make historical flares in F4 as they have too much flares right now as chaff takes more space than the flare
Look around, both here on the forums and the content creator reviews on it. It’s considered to have the most blatantly overpowered load-out in the game. You start with stock R-73s, its best IR missile and one of the best IR missiles in the game, while everyone else doesn’t. And you can carry up to six of them while everyone else has to grind out theirs as a tier four module. Not to mention it’s HMD helping it sling those missiles at ridiculous angles.
And then you get up to six of the best SARH missiles in the game on top of that. Like it’s not even really debatable. No one else has a radar missile even close to it.
Ah yes, let the only nation you can buy a full top-tier line-up in via premiums and event vehicles, whose top MBTs haven’t benefited for years with having a black void in their crew compartment that swallows side shots like nothing, and was set to be the only nation to get spall liners (again, as if they needed it) until Gaijin got called out on how BS that was. It’s not like they’re waiting alongside US and German players to finally get their correct armor values for how many years now?
Sorry, but no. Russian bias doesn’t need another W. The Su-27 and J-11will be fine even if they severely reduce how many R-27ERs they can carry. They had no issue restricting the Yak-141 to two.
