Su-17M4, Su-22M4 in the German and Russian Tech Trees

hey you asked for sources, bro had enuf to convince the tech mods, that was my only aim

We don’t know what they had. If the Kh-25MT existed and was tested, its highly unlikely to have been on the SU-17’s or MiG-27’s, more likely the Su-25T/39 which was listed on the report.

We have no idea what was passed on to the devs as a suggestion, but I doubt it was the Su-17M4/22M4.

cross compatibility is the word

Sources is the other word

You have to prove its cross compatible

its a Kh-25 for gods sake.
theyre all built on the same platform

No sources = never going to happen

well ur a tough nut arent ya

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btw anyone have this book?

Reported this a couple months ago
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/l4btYztAj288

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2 secondary sources

quite enough as proof wouldnt you say hehe

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yep, saw ur report. got with dontkev and added to his list

And another for the Kh-25MR

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QnfdFDBDW6Sk

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i wonder how the Vyuga pod’s functionality will be modelled… both in 3rd person and cockpit view

I don’t know much about how it works

AFAIK, the cockpit gets a lil instrument panel thingy with a few lights and button (replaces TV screen) and the pilot aims and fires based on that

R-13M missiles for the Su-17/22


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Source

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Kh-59L/T AGM for Su-17/22

Source

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extra source

EDIT: Kh-59L was not put into service even by russians

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Other source that could be useful are

A 101/1/129.- Flugzeug Su-22M4, Gefechtseinsatz

A 101/1/128.- Flugzeug Su-22M4, Steuertechnik und Navigation

I have no idea what is in them though, as they are in the German state archive and I cannot access it. There is also no pdf of them online, as far as I could find. One would have to go there in person.

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while reading the sources, i found the fabled Su-22M5.

An upgraded version of the Su-22M4 which, by my understanding, was never undertaken. but there actually WAS 1 prototype!
and here is the cockpit for it!

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I have only seen one report about countermeasures for the Su-17m4. Does anyone have any more information about additional countermeasures for the Su-17m4? (I use Google Translate.)
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/gVxuS26EFuti

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