Disclaimer: this is not a suggestion, I’m simply asking for help making these bug reports since missing weapons don’t get suggested, they get reported instead
I don’t know about you guys but its been a while since I’ve really seen the Su-17/22M4 really being put to use in GRB. I believe that
Its a hidden gem BUT
Has a high skill cap AND
Does not have its maximum Combat capability
What do I mean exactly?
Read on…
The Su-17/22M4 is the latest in the line of the Fitter family. Serving as the most modern variant of the 17/22s, it is also the top CAS aircraft for the 11.0 Battle rating. For the nations that use this aircraft and the nations that use it but don’t have it added yet in game,
Namely
Poland
Vietnam
Yemen
Afghanistan
Bulgaria
Czechoslovakia
Ukraine
…It is in their interest to see this aircraft use the weaponry it was capable of using.
Once again, i am making it clear it is the M4 variant i am talking about.
All these weapons have been or could be carried by the Su-17/22M4 as you will see by the sources attached and if more information is needed, you shall find it in the comments as well.
Compatible Pylons
I have reason to believe not only that the Kab-500L/Kr and Kh-25 could be carried on the outermost wing pylons but also the under fuselage pylons (where Kh-29T can be carried) as well as the innermost wing pylons.
My reasoning: these pylons are also wired for guided weapons and A-G missiles.
Yes please… Germany really needs something at that br for cas… no targetting pod laser missiles does not cut it either… kh 29te missiles are necessary as at 11.0 you face tor m1, tunguska, osa akm, strela 10m1/2…
one of the most useful things is in fact NOT the extra TV or laser guided missiles… but the rocket boosted bombs.
I already use the 29T as a TGP to set my SPI for CCRP drops and a rocket boosted bomb would reach those points sooner giving enemies less time to react
(useful bcz gaijin is more likely to be convinced to adding them(they can also be added to the Mig-23BN (as shown in the video)))
You need hard evidence it can carry 6, not just assuming based on wiring of other guided weapons. At best you could assume maybe maximum 2x KAB-500Kr’s, same pylons as the Kh-29T’s. But even then, hard evidence needed.
And no KAB-500L’s, because they’d only be able to be used with “Buddy-Lasing”, which isn’t an ingame mechanic.
They’re not rocket boosted like you’re thinking off, like the AASM 250’s. They have a drag parachute that aligns them towards the ground as they slowly descend. When they’re falling vertically, the rocket booster activates, accelerating them into the ground at high speed.
The pylons that take the Kh-29T can take the 29TE (obv) and the Kab-500Kr (obv)
The pylons that take the Kh-29T can also take the Kh-25ML (as seen in game and i have the aircraft manual that proves it)
The pylons that take the Kh-25ML hence are also wired for the other Kh-25MT and MTP
also one pylon is still missing its Kh-25s (pylons 3 and 6)
thats a limitation i am well aware of and well prepared to work around. we will need to dive to maintain painting the target but thats still better than an unguided bomb
even if thats the case, there are other changes that are listed that would still make it a much better strike aircraft than it is now.
The Su-17/22 was the top of the line Attacker for the Soviets and their WP allies. With the most modern technology for its time. its just sad it doesnt get the same status in WT
