…what?
Huh??!?!?!
One of the main things about the challenger II is ita accuracy, which is very good
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So your saying if someone is sniping in a TES because they are so slow that they can’t make it to any early competitive position so they are forced to sit back and snipe…that they are playing the tank wrong?
How else are Challengers supposed to play then? like a 2A7? Your the slowest, have the worst shell, your armour is irrelevant etc etc. So with all of the bad features of Challengers they should be played as aggressive as 2A7/122B+/BVM are played.
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The Challenger 2’s accuracy is literally worse than any contemporary western tank. Its accuracy is attributed to its rifled gun, which in fact is useless for APFSDS.
Thing is, hes completely wrong too.
One of the reasons why the brits use rifled barrels is because of their accuracy, especially with HESH.
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I literally never said that.
The Challlengers can only be played like this.
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Nope. They kept the rifled barrel because of stupid politics. HESH was already nearly obsolete at the time, and is objectively worse as well as less accurate than modern HE-MP.
Just drive somewhere lol like dude press W.
In a Challenger? They. Are. The. Slowest. MBT.
Challengers are unfit for Top Tier environment. Given speed usually dictates everything.
Literally a 2A7 can drive forward, die and respawn and make it back to the battle before you (In a Challenger) have reached the battle in your first life.
That is not entirely true. In Israeli war on Golan heights UK Centurions were dug in and were picking targets from 1k away while opponent couldn’t fire accurately back due to movement.
Another war where UK tanks were stati was Korea. Centurions were dug on the ridge overwatching valley and ridge across.
Yes, but tank maneuvers are 2-3 km wide not 100-500 m wide or around corner wide.
And why would you think that?
Because MBTs are long range stand off weapons which can utilize their guns while being protected by armor. The closer you get the least chance armor will protect you even from infantry.
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That’s mobile defense. You create multiple lines with prepared firing positions. Fire, dash to another position, fire a few more times, then retreat to another line until the opponent is spent. It still requires a tank to be able to quickly dash between positions and lines before the enemy is able to catch up.
Still requires speed. But speed isn’t just the engine, but also reliability and a resilient logistical tail.
Because the Challenger 2 didn’t receive its much needed FCS upgrades until the Challenger 3.
It wasn’t mobile defense. They were dug in and static for the whole assault.
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Prepared positions allow tanks to drive into a dug out position.
And they weren’t firing from one position nonstop. They frequently dashed between positions along the same line. The rapid pace at which they switched positions is what made the Syrians think there were many more Israeli tanks than actually were.
That is not what mobile defense is. Thats static defence position with tanks moving along the same static defense line. Mobile defense means whole defense line is moving forward or backward. It also includes flanking so defense line can move.
The Conqueror?
That things ENTIRE Philosophy was to sit in dug in positions behind the Centurions, and land accurate, long range, Deadly fire on Soviet Heavies and the tougher medium tanks that the Centurions couldn’t deal with.
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The Chieftains and Challengers are also built off that same basic concept, Sit at the back, Lob high power rounds at tanks from extreme ranges with sights and accuracy that is far above their enemies.
I fail to see how you entire challenger etc spam is on topic on MAPS??? How about you all move it to private channels.
Can a mod pls clear the topic from non map related spam??
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Mooooom!
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Prove they were doing this. All accounts I read are static defense in prepared hull down positions