Stop killing Israeli TT BR-changes

I do think that Vikhrs are good but Hellfires are not, however if you can keep the target in LOS, the Hellfire is much more trustworthy than the Spike. Vikhrs are the best laser guided munition held by helicopters due to their guidance system.

Doesnt it also weigh like 80 tonnes or so or was that disproven?

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There is a relatively large amount of videos of them using things like the Almas iirc there is a few of them targetting merkavas

The issue is that Gaijin has not introduced all the weapons Israel could carry, same goes for other countries obviously, and Israel does have a long range missile it’s just that it’s range is too much for the game right now. I’m sure USA (and other countries, I’m speaking about the F-15I the israeli F-15E) also has something similar. The problem isn’t on the country’s side, it’s on the game developers in this case. (And balance).

Yea thats what im saying
Not all fnf are good

No one thinks Merkavas are bad against garage tier weapons.

Those two aren’t really known for their technologically advanced weapons.

The matter of a fact is that Israel is facing CE threats almost exclusively, and pretty bad ones at that.

True, all their proxies have state of the art weaponry so they aren’t forced to go on the home-made route.
Oh wait…

Almost as if sabras armor isnt its main selling point; even that i dont have game open right now but im sure it isnt as black and white as you portray it, with regards to protection against 8.7 shells.

I went with the average armor, which meant checking the entire turret, not just the tip of the arrowhead.
I don’t take armor as seriously as I use to due to my new experience in M1A1 at top BR.

@CobarGG Thanks for admitting that my post is correct on AH-60, F-15, Kurnass 2000, etc via your post’s failed statshaming attempt that proves nothing.
Citing skill in a discussion about vehicles being good or not is not the path to take. You intentionally omitted my Merkava Mk3.

Also USSR isn’t free frags.

Your post’s unhinged rant of pure ragebait is sad…

@scripterzofindia accusing all of NATO of being Russia, no surprise.
T-64B has worse mobility than Merkavas…

Also you’re not obligated to spawn CAS, let alone in unfavorable situations.
I’ve removed a number of CAS from my lineups purely because of tanks just being better.

Also your last paragraph calling Merkavas OP after saying mean things to me is a tad wild:
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M60 AMBT needs to be moved up BTW.

Its not garage its just rpg and yea some brainwashed ppl thinks mekravas are bad even against normal rpgs

Thats true but it soesnt mean merkava cant stop apfsds

Dude its a glass canon t55 can pen the hull and big parts of the turret
T62 is even more
And t72 can just lol pen it everywhere

When u take it to 10.0 it will face 11.0 like t90 with 3bm60
What can sabra do against it?
Even its strength arent enough

isn’t M111 literally just DM23?

I was speaking 120mm DM23 as the comparison for 413.
M111 is likely literally 105mm DM23 though.

The point of my post was to be supportive of general correction of balance for 9.3 area of ground while being supportive of the things I felt he was correct on.

No insults, just perspective.

Merkavas are good against CE, they have been designed to fend off such threats in urban environments.

It surely can stop darts but how good that protection is is unknown. Merkava Mk4 turret armor should be able to stop all darts in the game for the sake of balancing, regardless if it’s realistic or not. Hull armor should also improve to at least stop earlier rounds like DM33 or something similar.

Sabra never relied on it’s armor so you aren’t losing much.

gaijen should just add ofekks tree

Bro I got a nuke with that shi at top tier 😭 it needs a uptier definitely and im glad gaijin is doing that

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merkavas can tank kornets. and israel needs to make sure it can also fight stuff like T-90s and M1A1SAs because some neighbors have them

the notion that israel only fights against terrorists with small arms is simply false

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we have the pictures of the side turret armor composites of the merkava mk 4 Barak.

it can probably tank steel darts. on the side armor

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Again that doesnt mean it cant stop ke shells
Merkava is super heavy for that reason it well protected from all threats

And btw the main reason merkava was made is to maximize crew protection cuz israel cant afford losing soldiers

All the bug reports with evidance support it can take the roound u said irl
Yes its clasified but gaijin can value it from pics and stats they just dont do that

Yea but its nice to take some volumetric shots in a downtier
Now in a full uptier it will be unplayble
Its allready struggled against leo 2a4 due to bad mobility now u want to put it against t90 ,mbt 2000 and such so its canon not gonna be good either

Obviously the main subject of Merkavas, looking at the pic it looks like it can tank 2-3 Kornet getting hit in the same spot
But that doesnt mean it doesnt have any KE protection
You cant tell me T-90 no ERA has better armor than the Merkavas turret just because the IDF focus on CE protection more
It would have the same KE protection as the M1A1 DU turret ingame ATLEAST and that is THE LEAST it can go

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