Stop killing Israeli TT BR-changes

Its not garage its just rpg and yea some brainwashed ppl thinks mekravas are bad even against normal rpgs

Thats true but it soesnt mean merkava cant stop apfsds

Dude its a glass canon t55 can pen the hull and big parts of the turret
T62 is even more
And t72 can just lol pen it everywhere

When u take it to 10.0 it will face 11.0 like t90 with 3bm60
What can sabra do against it?
Even its strength arent enough

isn’t M111 literally just DM23?

I was speaking 120mm DM23 as the comparison for 413.
M111 is likely literally 105mm DM23 though.

The point of my post was to be supportive of general correction of balance for 9.3 area of ground while being supportive of the things I felt he was correct on.

No insults, just perspective.

Merkavas are good against CE, they have been designed to fend off such threats in urban environments.

It surely can stop darts but how good that protection is is unknown. Merkava Mk4 turret armor should be able to stop all darts in the game for the sake of balancing, regardless if it’s realistic or not. Hull armor should also improve to at least stop earlier rounds like DM33 or something similar.

Sabra never relied on it’s armor so you aren’t losing much.

gaijen should just add ofekks tree

Bro I got a nuke with that shi at top tier 😭 it needs a uptier definitely and im glad gaijin is doing that

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merkavas can tank kornets. and israel needs to make sure it can also fight stuff like T-90s and M1A1SAs because some neighbors have them

the notion that israel only fights against terrorists with small arms is simply false

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we have the pictures of the side turret armor composites of the merkava mk 4 Barak.

it can probably tank steel darts. on the side armor

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Again that doesnt mean it cant stop ke shells
Merkava is super heavy for that reason it well protected from all threats

And btw the main reason merkava was made is to maximize crew protection cuz israel cant afford losing soldiers

All the bug reports with evidance support it can take the roound u said irl
Yes its clasified but gaijin can value it from pics and stats they just dont do that

Yea but its nice to take some volumetric shots in a downtier
Now in a full uptier it will be unplayble
Its allready struggled against leo 2a4 due to bad mobility now u want to put it against t90 ,mbt 2000 and such so its canon not gonna be good either

Obviously the main subject of Merkavas, looking at the pic it looks like it can tank 2-3 Kornet getting hit in the same spot
But that doesnt mean it doesnt have any KE protection
You cant tell me T-90 no ERA has better armor than the Merkavas turret just because the IDF focus on CE protection more
It would have the same KE protection as the M1A1 DU turret ingame ATLEAST and that is THE LEAST it can go

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What I’m afraid of right now is what will happen when they add turret baskets to the Merkavas. I’ve seen many people mad about it.

for real, (for refrence, Israel ground forces full potential)

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I don’t know, it could go either way.

The armor is paper and it just relies on angles and stuff absorbing pen to not pop off. So more stuff if there may help.

Plus the mk4’s don’t have a basket. That’s why it’s so roomy.

a merkava 4a as a premuim i think will be good, because the raam sagol is getting uptiered to 12.7 alot and the Mk4 could survive slightly more, then also they could lower the tier of the raam sagol

@archeageisdown
Dude, stop with the insults against Israel players.

Either prove we’re wrong about the bugs involving the vehicles we’re claiming are bugged or accept we have different perspectives and move on.

source?

In-game. Not out of game. Source : thousands of rounds playing Israel as well as other nations at top tier.

i love how some ppl here are trying to gaslight other ppl to say the merkava is not good, brother, not to be rude ofc but im israeli and i can promise you there is atleast one more person here who is, you cant gaslight us about our own tanks x-x

ok