Best they have are M1A1s.
Also, more than half of their tanks are T-55/62 and M60s, which definitely are massively inferior.
the M1A1SA came at the same time as the merkava
and “why should you develop any tanks, to fight tanks which are a decade older?”
a 120mm will still go through a merkava 2 and 3
Civil disagreement of perspectives instead of insults?
Dang, wish more posts were like this. :)
Might do, but in general their neighbors are far from being up to date when it comes to tech, especially ones they already were in war with.
yeah they are more advanced because they made the merkava, which is much much better
thats the point
Those countries don’t have the money for creating or buying good tanks, which Israel knows very well.
This is why Israel is pushing CE protection so hard, they know that most of their engagements will be against ATGMs or RPGs fired in an urban environment.
Haven’t you heard, only minor nations get nerfs and things taken out of it. When’s the last time Gaijin nerfed America or Germany? I’m talking big nerfs, not the turret basket. The only thing I can think of is slightly nerfing the ADATS and FlaRakRad. Otherwise they are still OP.
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Sure, they may not be able to shoot you down, but you can’t attack ground targets either. It’s still a single 70sp vehicles completetly shutting doing a 700sp+ vehicle.
You can attack ground targets after killing the AA that’s firing at you.
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The issue is Pantsir can simply shoot down any munitions you fire, so that doesn’t work.
Just use the decoys and spam it’s radar with contacts. He won’t be able to find your IR AGM mixed in with all of those.
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You say that as if more than half the planes placed against the Pantsir can even use some form of decoy.
Even if your plane does, the Pantsir can simply move on 90% of maps, or in some case just shoot down all the decoys along with the IR AGM.
You can cover a pretty big area with your decoys, so even if he moves it’s a coin flip if he survives.
That being said, decoys aren’t even used as a primary killing method as their name suggests, they’re there to overwhelm it’s radar and let IR AGMs do their job.
Your number of decoys and IR AGMs outnumber the Pantsir’s amount of missiles.
What do you think the word “decoy” even means . . .
That’s heavily dependent on what plane you have, and not to mention if there’s A. a second Pantsir, B. The Pantsir takes cover behind a building, or C. The Pantsir player uses a backup, your efforts will be completely in vain.
You should ask that yourself, as you brought up the “it can just move away” argument.
That’s nice whataboutism.
Yes, you move away and the one that follows you is the IR AGM.
No. Saying what a competent Pantsir playing will do in response is simply pointing out why your imaginary idea of what happens between a Pantsir and a plane is baloney.
Calling it a whataboutism is just your way of deflecting a counterpoint when you know you’re wrong.
Yes, you gonna move 100-200m in order to get any difference.
So a competent Pantsir player will always have a friend with him or have a building big enough to hide behind, right ?
We’re like two posts in and you’re already grasping at straws.
Oh sorry, is that too hard for you?
On nearly every map in the game, yes, there’s large objects to hide behind. And please don’t try to say:
“bUt whAt AbouT ThE mAPS ThAT dON’T?”
I agree with most of the post. I can’t comment on Sabra / Trsikhon as I’ve not unlocked them yet, nor can I really comment on AH-60 as I’m still grinding Spikes which is their whole selling point.
But on this specific thing, I would disagree. F-15I is great. Perfectly capable of holding its own against other top tier fighters.
This is our single biggest issue IMO. I hate the fact Merk’s and Namer are made of tissue, but to an extent I can grit my teeth and work around it.
There is literally no working around, adapting or overcoming the fact that Machbet / Chaparral are simply useless at top tier though.
We desperately need something like HVSD/ADAMS or Spyder. It is an absolute joke how far behind this tech tree is in AA.