Stop blaming USA top tier win rates on player skill

Well tbf Sweden gets an under br’d Mi-24A that used to own the game for the longest time.

I hate to say it, but pansir isn’t be all end all. Its g-overload sucks.

Additionally, when playing any Tseries tank, especially post APFS bounce mechanics, I’ve noticed playing something like a T-90M, getting shot in the lower plate now, the APFS just skips off the floor plate into the ammo 99.9% of the time, instead of killing the driver and exiting through the floor like it should.

But mostly when playing T-series tanks:
20% of shots bounce, 35% of shots are breech shots, 35% are lower plate shots, and the last 10% are driver port shots.
In the days of “laser beam” like aim (honestly wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of people at top tier are found to be cheaters. Any tank that has the tiniest frontal weakpoint is vulnerable.

Back that up with the weak reverse speed… yeah… I cannot say that the T-series are as dominant as they once were in game.

I finally got my Leo2a7HU, and although it took a good min to get an idea of how to play it (post armor nerf / fix) and getting my Italy crew to at least lv. 80, with an expert crew I found it VASTLY more enjoyable than any other tank.
I only really feared the TKX getting the drop on me, but even then, spall liners are both great and bad. I relied on them, they failed me. I didn’t care they were there? Worked like a charm.

The blowout panels + over all tank survivability, reverse, spall liners, etc. combined with the great gun… oh man, the only hard time I had was accidentally clipping the lower part of the turret on the abrams and it non-penning but that didn’t happen often.

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not the best because anything that has over 600mm ke can pen it if unangle just a slight bit

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It takes a team to win, and you can sit back doing nothing and have the team win it for you, or you can strain your ass out and still lose…

Winrate is not directly related to player skill.

Okay, that’s like, half the shit in the game without flat plates.

sorry waht?

And the M1A1 isn’t?

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Can this thread be closed, discussion is not that civil and the topic has been covered plenty of times before and is probably duplicate

M1A1 is far from bad dude-

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cant even resist against 3bm46, pretty bad for me

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Here, i’ll give you a pros/cons list.

M1A1’s Pros:

  • 5s M829A1, best firepower for the BR
  • Significantly better reverse speed
  • Significantly better survivability, including blowout panels
  • Usable armor for the BR, especially when you play around its strengths, being long range hull-down combat.
  • Has gun depression
  • Significantly better gun handling
  • Miscellaneous, but it has the HEATMP shell for Helos

T-80U’s Pros:

  • Better armor profile
  • smol
  • 3OF26 HE Shell
  • Rooftop ERA
  • Side-mounted ERA

Keep in mind that the T-80U is 11.7 and the M1A1 is 11.3.

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3bm46 are at much lower BR

That is common only on the 2S25M.
No, the T-90A does not count. You are an overglorified T-72 cosplaying as a better tank.

If you were talking about Click-Bait it’s definitely not bad.
It’s a 12.0 material sitting at 11.7.

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T-90A, T-72M2 Mod, UM2 at the same BR/lower
also i didnt say that 3bm42 can pen the m1a1 but it can pen right side turret
and remember if ur turret face is not facing foward the enemies and if ur enemies arent dead ahead of you its going to kill you

7 minutes? try 3 minutes

oh no thats just the highest ive seen, not the lowest

you think these people care? 3bm 60 is at 10.0 3bm42 is at what 9.7? B.R rating

Bro does not want to count team and covers his kill stats with khalid lmfao strategy

And M322 exists at 9.7, so what ?

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Small frontal engagement maps and penetration relationships can prove Abrams is bad immediately, for there aren’t that much advantage to be obtained by its mobility and turret traverse *count traverse damage a super disadvantage on survivability, though many players would ignore combat logic and go for stats