just fix the turret ring and hydraulic pump location on abrams pls, no need for more
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Lmao, everybody on this forum know you are spreading lies and propaganda
You never speak factually
Yes, you do in fact live a happy strawman life
Why do you even engage with community you hate so much?
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when they fix them theres gonna be more
because once they fix something they are pressure to fix other things
and yk gaijin, they no wanna do dat
I’d say Type 10 is slightly better than SEP, though this largely depends on the situation.
Hull down? Sep.
Flanking? Type 10.
Brawling? Both really…
Sep has better armour and turret rotation speed, but Type 10 has the mobility and reload.
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I think he’s just using LoS penetration @ 60°.
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That was my assumption as well, yet that is a coefficient that holds no use to discuss about raw penetration. It’s a skewed number that holds no practical weight.
No, this is not how you reverse-engineer angle pen to flat pen, since that’s not the formula that Gaijin uses to calculate angle pen.
He is correct here:
The only correct inference about this -
is that M829A2 pens better at 60 degrees obliquity than short-barrel DM53… but we already know that just based on their stat cards:
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@rainy2000
So you’re claiming that Gaijin doesn’t use Willi Odermatt despite them explicitly saying that’s what they use…
Good to know you consider mathemeticians and physics to be “arbitrary” and your post is also attempting to gaslight, which won’t work cause I’m probably the only one talking about this that took courses on psychology.
By the by, amount of steel penetrated [“LOS pen” as some people call it] matters more than the thickness of the plate itself.
dont they use DU penetrator?
Yes, that’s partially why M829A2 performs better than DM53 out of the same-length barrel.
but i dont think if something pen at 60 degree it doesnt always mean the flat 0 degree pen is double(or in this case reverse)
doesnt make sense to me tbh
That’s not what the equation says.
The equation doesn’t prove flat pen at all, it translates plate thickness to amount of steel actually penetrated.
Fair enough. I may have misinterpreted what you were trying to say.
I do know that they use Lanz-Odermatt formula (Willi Odermatt’s), though I don’t understand what point you’re trying to convey.
If you care about which shell can penetrate armour at angles better, the stat card shows it.
There’s no real reason to calculate the amount of LOS steel that is penetrated, as the round with better angle performance shown on the stat card would have told you that already.
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I apologize that the post you replied to was poorly written BTW. I could’ve made it less harsh to read.
Glad we got to an understanding.
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Should M1A1 AIM get tusk
useless armor package in war thunder
wouldnt be useless if they fix it but yeah
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absolutely, but its its not happening, EVERY single western armor package is vastly underperfoming
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Because I don’t commonly play air, like I commonly play ground has no real relevance now does it?
The bingo list is just a good list of excuses haha.
You know, I try to be amicable, but coming into the topic the way you did is just distasteful.
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Sorry, just that it seemed a bit arrogant when I know we’ve had discussions before on Russian vehicles that (funnily enough) are your most favourite vehicles. 😅
I guess, though some of the things on the list seemed reasonable.
I mean… I think we can all agree that the M1A2 SEP V2 is worse than the Sep V1.
Even @MagikWT said it himself:
So from what I can understand, instead of just unreasonable / funny takes being on the list, it’s just common complaints from US mains.
So I’d like to see Italian / French / Israeli bingo cards with stuff like ‘No good top tier SPAA’, ‘Better Leclerc Shell’, ‘Merkava turret armour not properly modelled’, etc…
Though I’m guessing that probably wouldn’t be as fun.
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