You can still look at my profile in-game and painstakingly crunch numbers in an Excel spreadsheet if you wish, but being able to scrape the data from some backend server and then serve it to the world in a website is just creepy. There should be more friction, and Gaijin needs to get its act together by obfuscating userstats to third parties.
so your issue isnt as much as to what is done as it is with how it is done?
Should it? Since the issue seems to be with how it is done, thats not for us to deal with. Gaijin can release tools similiar to statshark at any time, making the site obsolete.
as for SR1 rating, thats merely amalgation of several statistics put into one, something that can be done by anyone manually. all statshark does is that they just expedite the process and save us all time.
Well, these websites don’t ask for user consent, they quite literally grab your data and put it up for the whole world to see. I’m not a fan of that. I’d certainly opt out if that’s an option these sites had. But they never asked anyone to begin with, that’s already a major violation of privacy and Gaijin should look into ways of stopping these sites from doing that.
for it to be violation of privacy, said information would need to be private.
your stats arent private. I, or literally anyone, can access them in game in matter of seconds. That makes said data public by definition.
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I also think Gaijin doesn’t really care about it since most of it is quite meaningless data.
Oh no the winrate I have in a random vehicle in a random videogame is now online, the horror!
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oh no people can see my learning curve in videogame, now they will know that i actually had to learn how to play!
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I do not see anything wrong with being able to see your teammates stats ingame, its almost like you already can see your teammates stats with a simple double click. For being able to see your enemies vehicles, I do not know how all of that works but I agree that could be a bit of a problem. (I also havent seen anything showing that it shows the enemies vehicles)
Data aggregation should not be public. The major problem is that Gaijin allows seemingly private data to be available for everyone to scrape and then be used here to be toxic.
If I could opt out and have the right to remain private in sites like those, I would. That’s the most basic right anyone should ask for and expect during these times.
Again, your issue seems to be with how it is done rather than what is done, seeings as earlier you said, and I quote:
And, again, thats not for us to solve. Gaijin could release their own statistics making the statshark obsolete at any time, but they dont.
Again, no private data is being shown on statshark. Your stats are being shown on statshark, and gaijin clearly intended for them to be public, otherwise he would allow you to disable people looking at your profile directly, no?
I mean I get your point, but this isnt like Google spying on me with “analytic data” to perfectly target the ads i will proceed to ignore and to sell my data to alphabet soup agencies that will learn what i crank my hog to.
your stats are in grand scheme of things even more meaningless.
Only fault I can see is how it’s weighted.
Statshark already struggles with weighting from lack of rank distinction.
Here, they outright say they weigh against prop BR expectations.
Looking at screenshots for WarthunderSim, I often sim random regulars achieving 20+kill games in top tier jets because of fox 3 playstyle.
In competetive WW2 lobbies I usually see at most 15 kills accumulated and that’s more of a rarity. I often check streamers who are decent when I cant play but feel like planes and they manage about 12-15 kills and that’s about it.
What I’m saying:
We’d need “brackets” for this to work. And that’s before we consider the skillset required being pretty different across said brackets (statshark gives me blue SR1 score usually 1900-2000ish. That’s for props. if I went into missile thunder I’d end up red or sth)
Pre-war and WW2, Gunfighter jets (Late WW2, post-war, korean, some vietnam), missile jets, fox 3 jets should probably get entirely different ranking systems.
Other issue is the ease of gaming the system for some modes.
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I just don’t want some third party site and creeps to look at my ratings or whatever else unreliable metric they use to be toxic here in the forums. These sites should not be allowed to display any type of information without consent. User stats should be private and only accessible to the user, Gaijin and none else.
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I mean I get you and I somewhat agree, but if person has, say, yellow SR1 and then I go check the vehicles he plays and hes 17 KD in Spitfire with 4k battles I know damn well to not ever cross his path even if his SR1 might be yellow. (fun story, just the other day I saw Tornado F.3 being played by someone named “Trigger” after the AC7 protagonist, I went in to check his profile for fun only to learn he had KD of 7 in said plane. my smile quickly turned into expression of horror).
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Not to mention that these third party tools can be used for stalking and targeted harassment, I’ve seen it happen and it’s toxic. They should not exist to begin with.
the metric they use for SR1 is clearly explained and reliable, even if naysayers claim it doesnt take into account things like assists and caps (actions that increase average score).
Again, public information. It doesnt require consent. It would be like me putting phone number of my business into yellow pages and then get mad at google for displaying it in search results.
Again, your issue seems to be with how it is done, not what is it done. If from now on I personally started tracking your stats with excel spreadsheet, youd be fine with it since im the user, no?
like, how?
again, how
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If you pay them $78 US a year (for the app). Rhymes with “clay to twin”.
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I meant statshark in general.
Bad stats, got called out on it probably.
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one issue ive found is when im talking about a vehicle i really sucked with as a new player and havent fully recovered the stats with yet (Ratel 20).
If we could see stats as of a set date that would be real cool
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Im 100% with you on this one. The current way of viewing this through sessions is clunky at best.
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Not really, I just don’t feel comfortable with it. A simple “hide vehicle stats from other players, except friends” should be a toggle in the privacy settings by now. That would stop these sites from accessing data you don’t want to show.
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