Same with the guided weapons spreadsheet
No matter where this discussion goes, using player statistics as a target to attack in any topic is toxic.
The logic is simple: no gaming forum has lasted long enough with this type of conduct because the players who were really most active in their respective AREAS and COMMUNITIES completely abandoned any desire to dialogue with others because they were totally ridiculed because of this crap from third-party website statistics.
My contribution to the current topic ends here. Have a great evening, and I hope that sites like this fall so that other players feel comfortable expressing their opinions to others, even if their opinions are wrong, but can be changed if CAPABLE players come to the rescue of this person, showing them how to overcome their problems and difficulties with X vehicles.
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If it’s doing what is claimed, it’s autoflipping your screen to your in-game leaderboard, taking a screenshot, then OCR’ing the screenshot and looking up the player names on the Statshark site.
It’s all sort of public info, in that you can always Tab and look at that leaderboard yourself. For modes where the info about the other side is obscured (such as vehicle) on the in-game leaderboard, presumably it couldn’t pull that.
The issue here would be you have a third party app on your computer that is possibly making keystroke commands to your game client. One you paid for. That seems sort of the thing in a different context Battleeye exists to block. So me I’d wait for more info from either Gaijin and/or Statshark before risking my account: YMMV.
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I mean given the last drama with who was part of the Statshark team…
This is why we need stats.
Some people will continue spewing BS even when people actually tried to prove them wrong.
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I don’t fully disagree with this. People should still be able to express their opinions, sure. However people shouldn’t expect their opinion to hold the same weight as the opinion of other more qualified people.
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I don’t think we’d have this scale of problem if global vehicle statistics were accessible instead of having to rely on 2nd hand sources/scrutinising other player performance when it comes to discussing vehicle balance.
imo statshark/thunderskill is a net positive in spite of the issues it brings along the way
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There should be an ingame ranking shown in battle that tells You how good/bad teammates You have/face.
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ppl opinions are measured by their capabilities on the subject. just as you believe way, way more in a graduated scientist than someone without any education on how the universe works (just one example), your opinion on wt is measured directly by your skills in the game.
just as a person without any education can also have correct opinions about the universe, a bad player can too, but what are the chances? because the person without any education is only giving his opinion without any background knowledge, based only on guesswork and beliefs, a bad player will do the same.
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Quite the opposite actually
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I don’t need a 3rd party app to figure out that the team is bad
1/3 or 1/2 of the team dying and leaving in the first 2-4 mins already lets me know that :)
And it would lead to the same thing in War Thunder. Obviously player stats need to be shown, but the last thing WT needs is more stuck up or good players making fun/insulting others because they aren’t as good.
See above: It would make WT even more toxic, and would only make the game worse for most people.
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Rather it would show You with who You are discussing things and would save You a lot of time.
You aren’t going to be discussing things in a game, which this thread was primarily about.
I agree, sites like Statshark and Thunderskill should be C&D, at least the portion that scrapes user stats and data should be obfuscated and inaccessible to third party websites. Vehicle stats are the only useful metrics in those sites.
Also, why are individual user stats freely available to scrape from outside sources? That’s a major privacy violation and one I would not consent to.
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live game viewer aside, if your data is still accessible to players, what prevents me from going up to your profile and just punching up the data manually into excel spreadsheet that would do the same thing as statshark does?
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If gaijin released official vehicle performance statistics every month, statshark would have probably never been made
I’ve never ever seen anyone go to statshark midgame and pull up someones stat to make fun of them for it
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Mid game and after the game? Of course I will.