So then your opinion of what makes the best CAS plane, you would say it’s the Rafale.
amraams are better because someone with mica is forced to close in against an enemy with amraams to be effective - theyre forced to go through an disadvantange to have a chance of killing
good ordnance and amraams win
Well, in GRB where this would take place, you’re starting out in the range best suited for mica. So it can’t be the AMRAAM.
This only becomes more so the closer you get to the field to do your CAS job. Which also is the range at which the f77 is better than amraam as well.
Which ties with this post I missed, sorry.
This isn’t ARB where you’re so far away that amraam shines. GRB puts you in the range best suited for shorter range highly maneuverable missiles like r77 and Micah. The difference is bad radar on SU(from what I hear, I have neither) but good on rafale.
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unfortunately for you this is incorrect since planes in general spawn with a distance of 30km between them and have to close through that
that’s only true if they both spawn at the same time.
so you want to create an unfair situation to try and make mica seem better
then i can easily remind you that aircraft are free to roam the map however they want to and can spawn with amraams, fly further and when they are notified they will have an advantange even better than 30km
or we can just assume that the situation is fair and compare missiles based on that
A regular game is an unfair scenario? I’m sorry you feel that way.
If that was the case, they wouldn’t be able to do a good CAS job now would they. So they wouldn’t be the best CAS plane.
So which is it, pick a lane.
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the reason its an unfair situation is youre trying to control the amraam pilot to go into the attack zone of mica where any smart pilot would actually go further, wait for rafale to spawn and have an advantange of over 30km for engagement that the rafale pilot cant avoid
essentially youre creating a situation where the pilot with amraams is purposefully putting himself into a tactically disadvantegous situation so you can try to say that micas are better
you can only say that mica is better when you put someone into a situation that benefits mica
nothing prevents them from extending further
No. That’s literally what you’re doing to justify that an amraam is better. This isn’t ARB. Stop talking about CAP, we’re talking about CAS. If you’re doing CAS, none of what you’re saying is true.
Literally dude, pick a lane.
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i already told you that nothing prevents the amraam pilot from extending out to wait for a rafale to spawn
saying “no” doesnt make you win an argument. provide a logical reason
Being a CAS pilot does, the topic of discussion.
So is it CAP or CAS?
Pick a lane.
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simple. it can be both. he can lob gbu’s from max range and orbit around extending. with glide bombs you dont need to fly directly over the battlefield anymore
sucks to suck
he can also wait for rafale to spawn and he will have an advantange
I’m from AU and I’m forced to use NA or EU servers, so where do the rest of my people factor in?
too bad youre the minority and looking you being from au you have better kd than americans which supports my findings
your Trump card is:
“he’ll fly around far enough away to not see anything and drop bombs at random on the battlefield.”
You and I play very differently.
you can close in 5km for the bomb drop and at 25km you still have an advantange
even at 20km the amraam is better than mica and this is giving benefit of doubt for the amraam player to be stupid to not be able to lock the rafale for a while
go look at amraam nez and compare it to mica
mica em are so bad that gaijin is considering having to add the mica ng with a sustainer motor lmao (dev files)
Except that the AIM-120 slinger has no ordnance that can be effectively employed 30+km from the battlefield genius. At that point you are exclusively CAP, which is irrelevant to the discussion.
Wrong, like usual apparently.
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Not even the best AGM in the game is effective at 20km, let alone further. The bombs won’t be doing what the missiles aren’t, so you’d be a non effective CAS player. So why even bring CAS when you’d be ineffective and better off just bringing AAMs in your logic stretching thought experiment. People would do it if it was viable, they don’t because it’s not.
In a normal scenario for GRB you’re normally within like 15k>. Every km closer gives more to the mica and takes away from the AIM. This isn’t even bringing the flight models into it, for which every person I know and follow says is better than the f15e.
If you’re gonna keep stretching this scenario to fit your opinion, I’m gonna stop engaging.
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youre assuming that the pilots are flying straight however when they crank or notch the amraam gets the advantange and any competent pilot will either crank or notch when engaging in bvr combat and youre assuming that the pilots are dumb to try and get mica a benefit
the amraam carrier doesnt need to be 20km away from the battlefield if the plane carrier is 10km away from battlefield itll be 25km away from a rafale that spawned in
you misinterpreted what i said buddy