Spike ERs go through smoke and are FNF, AGM-114Ls go through smoke and are FNF

you can close in 5km for the bomb drop and at 25km you still have an advantange
even at 20km the amraam is better than mica and this is giving benefit of doubt for the amraam player to be stupid to not be able to lock the rafale for a while
go look at amraam nez and compare it to mica

mica em are so bad that gaijin is considering having to add the mica ng with a sustainer motor lmao (dev files)

Except that the AIM-120 slinger has no ordnance that can be effectively employed 30+km from the battlefield genius. At that point you are exclusively CAP, which is irrelevant to the discussion.

Wrong, like usual apparently.

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Not even the best AGM in the game is effective at 20km, let alone further. The bombs won’t be doing what the missiles aren’t, so you’d be a non effective CAS player. So why even bring CAS when you’d be ineffective and better off just bringing AAMs in your logic stretching thought experiment. People would do it if it was viable, they don’t because it’s not.

In a normal scenario for GRB you’re normally within like 15k>. Every km closer gives more to the mica and takes away from the AIM. This isn’t even bringing the flight models into it, for which every person I know and follow says is better than the f15e.

If you’re gonna keep stretching this scenario to fit your opinion, I’m gonna stop engaging.

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youre assuming that the pilots are flying straight however when they crank or notch the amraam gets the advantange and any competent pilot will either crank or notch when engaging in bvr combat and youre assuming that the pilots are dumb to try and get mica a benefit

the amraam carrier doesnt need to be 20km away from the battlefield if the plane carrier is 10km away from battlefield itll be 25km away from a rafale that spawned in
you misinterpreted what i said buddy

Wrong, like usual.

Assuming both pilots are skilled only suits to benefit the MICA as both aircraft will have 0 problems avoiding any radar missiles all the way to the merge. At that point the MICA is downright the best, as it can actually be used in a dogfight and will likely be fired in an angle that won’t allow defeat.

youre assuming that the amraam pilot would be an cooperative target in a dogfight which they wouldnt be to try and get an advantange
again, the only way you can try to get an advantange for rafale is to assume that the target is stupid.

Spike ERs cannot track though smoke.

Do you think smoke is some magical forcefield?

DM53 L/55 can reliably go through the UFP of K5 tanks which can’t be said for the Swedish one. That’s a big advantage on it’s own.
122s all have gen1 gunner thermals while 2A7s have gen2, which is a big positive.

2A7s definitely aren’t objectively worse than 122s.

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Didnt say thar specialy.
The strv122 is a tick better cause ofbthe armor thats it

Can you tell me what pieces of armor are better on 122s and their in-game relevance ?

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Overall stev122s have higher values specialy with a stronger frontal plate leading to even more non penetrations Защищённость ОБТ - Google Drive

Even it’s own round fails to go through the beak so gameplay differences are minimal.
I don’t know about you, but I’d trade a slightly worse beak that will still eat shots consistently for gen2 thermals and a round that can pen the UFP of K5 tanks.

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