It can for sure be argued that russia has reached that. But it is very recent with the su34.
I would still say that america has the best overall cas throughout the brs
If we incorporate surface factors, Russia has much better CAS than the US rn, though US having the best through the tiers is arguable. Best fighter-based CAS? yes, but best CAS overall? Not really. There’s Lancasters and Pe-8s with incredibly heavy armaments alongside the A21A-3 with its CCRP and 1200lb-ers just to name a few better examples
I would agree with this. But it is more a side effect of having a larger aircraft tree than any other, and nearly every fighter having significant ordnance carriage capability compared to what is found in other trees.
But that’s not really what this discussion is about, which is the absolute top tier, where having more than 2-3 aircraft and 1-2 helicopters in a lineup is unlikely to be relevant in a majority of battles.
Personally, i dont count heavy bombers since they require clear skies to work.
That is why i say the US has the best cas throughout the brs. They are able to do cas and cap well. I also find them able to do cas work for much longer at low-mid tiers since their guns have good pen and great ammo count.
I have not flown the su34 so im not sure on its flight model and radar. If it is similar to the su27m, the US would have the best overwall cas while russia would have to best pure cas
You see what happen to brimstone?
You won’t get that sht 114L because gaijin are too scared or you get new abomination call AGM114L(SAL)
If it included it’s Proximity fuse it would still be a noticeable upgrade for the current Hellfire users.
the rooivalk is better than the apache.
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r77 are trash compared to amraams that can be carried by cas planes
Yeah. That is why i carry r27er for anti air over the r77
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1.) they aren’t trash, and are better when fired within range, having similar time to target and much better maneuverability. It is rather easy to force with good parameters on ground maps.
2.) R-77 vs AIM-120 comparison is irrelevant to CAS capability when you can literally launch all your Kh-38MTs and a 3000kg glide bomb before any ARH can hit you. Even if you die that’s still likely 4-7 kills launching at max range. The same can not be said of AGM-65s which requires you to be within range of S1’s, let alone any CAP aircraft.
the best cas fighter at top tier has good ordnance and good air to air missiles to defend itself to stay effective and not die to effectively continue providing cas
if you dont have good missiles together with good ornance youre trash
theyre trash compared to the amraam that one guy said he rather carries r27er lmao
Absolutely braindead take.
trolls when they face common sense:
Tell me dipshit, is the Rafale also trash?
By your logic it must be, having short range “bad” ARHs with even worse time to target than R-77s and only marginally better close range performance.
And not even having the benefit of an S1 screen on its side.
micas arent trash r77 are trash. russian cas isnt a threat
Got it, so you’re just a fucking moron, good to know.
The R-77 is only beaten by the MICA is absolute maneuverability slightly, and beats it in Time to target when fired in HMD ranges.
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r77 cant compete with mica or amraam
its worse. some people rather take r27er’s
and if you have to start breaking forum rules then you clearly have lost the argument and have nothing intelligent to say
Except I’m not wrong
Haven’t ever really been big on that rule to begin with. Don’t plan to start now.
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yeah you dont like a rule that tells you to provide an intellectual argument instead of name calling (because you cant)
I already did. Your rebuttal was “nuh-uh” and they aren’t also the best A2A while being outright the best at A2G, which is a stupid argument that sidesteps the point.
At this point you just lump yourself in with Alvis, which means you’ll get no respect from me.
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