Spike ERs go through smoke and are FNF, AGM-114Ls go through smoke and are FNF

If it included it’s Proximity fuse it would still be a noticeable upgrade for the current Hellfire users.

the rooivalk is better than the apache.

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r77 are trash compared to amraams that can be carried by cas planes

Yeah. That is why i carry r27er for anti air over the r77

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1.) they aren’t trash, and are better when fired within range, having similar time to target and much better maneuverability. It is rather easy to force with good parameters on ground maps.

2.) R-77 vs AIM-120 comparison is irrelevant to CAS capability when you can literally launch all your Kh-38MTs and a 3000kg glide bomb before any ARH can hit you. Even if you die that’s still likely 4-7 kills launching at max range. The same can not be said of AGM-65s which requires you to be within range of S1’s, let alone any CAP aircraft.

the best cas fighter at top tier has good ordnance and good air to air missiles to defend itself to stay effective and not die to effectively continue providing cas

if you dont have good missiles together with good ornance youre trash

theyre trash compared to the amraam that one guy said he rather carries r27er lmao

Absolutely braindead take.

trolls when they face common sense:

Tell me dipshit, is the Rafale also trash?

By your logic it must be, having short range “bad” ARHs with even worse time to target than R-77s and only marginally better close range performance.

And not even having the benefit of an S1 screen on its side.

micas arent trash r77 are trash. russian cas isnt a threat

Got it, so you’re just a fucking moron, good to know.

The R-77 is only beaten by the MICA is absolute maneuverability slightly, and beats it in Time to target when fired in HMD ranges.

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r77 cant compete with mica or amraam
its worse. some people rather take r27er’s
and if you have to start breaking forum rules then you clearly have lost the argument and have nothing intelligent to say

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Except I’m not wrong

Haven’t ever really been big on that rule to begin with. Don’t plan to start now.

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yeah you dont like a rule that tells you to provide an intellectual argument instead of name calling (because you cant)

I already did. Your rebuttal was “nuh-uh” and they aren’t also the best A2A while being outright the best at A2G, which is a stupid argument that sidesteps the point.

At this point you just lump yourself in with Alvis, which means you’ll get no respect from me.

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But Su-34 and Pantsir fit very well to make Russian doctrine in WT, which is why it’s very effective

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problem is that the Nato doctrine doesnt get implemented trough the lack of HARMS.
Else it would look completly different

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i already reasoned as to why but you replied with insults lmao

lump yourself in with the people who start breaking rules when they start losing an argument

At range, yeah. Not close up.

and to get close you have to go through range :)