SPAA J'ing out before you can kill them

They aren’t. They can show the base nature of a situation or thing by blowing it out of proportion to make the issue of said thing more obvious. It’s ment as a way to make the other person understand that there is an issue to begin with, it serves a purpose of communicating the general idea and concept. It has a purpose.

No, not even remotely. Making up ridiculous hypotheticals does nothing but dilute or try to divert from the reality of the topic.

Your personal experience does not invalidate others experiences.

Same applies to you, pointless statement.

There is clearly a majority of players that think that using the mechanic in that not intended way isn’t a good thing

According to who? Let’s see the data then, let’s see the community polls. Why don’t you ask the developers to create a poll that launches on game startup and asks the question that way this issue can be put out the whole active community?

just search through all the threads about it here on the forum.

There’s also plenty of people posting in threads here and elsewhere that have absolutely no problem with people leaving their vehicle whenever they want. Neither of us have any actual tangible substantive data here on this so this is going to turn into a pointless back and forth of opinions with no substance.

Also if number of threads on a topic were an indicator of how badly a problem needed dealt with and how much of the playerbase wants something, then CAS would have been nerfed into the ground a long time ago given the prevalence of CAS removal / ground only threads that exist and have existed.

And yet, nothing.

WT’s EULA is so poorly and vaguely written that you might breach it by just killing the wrong vehicle.
You might also breach it if not leaving certain, defenseless vehicles when met with a duel with any other enemy vehicle.

I guess some parts of the EULA are like GRB maps, made a decade ago and left to rot without any updates.

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Issue is the Radar vehicle has maximum spawn protection so in that time you need to destroy the launchers while the Radar vehicle is immune.

The implementation of systems like the IRIS-T SL is really poor and being able to instantly poop out another launcher is terrible for gameplay.

The IRIS-T SL is a terrible addition for gameplay and we have just punted the Pantsir problem down the road.

This is all entirely pointless anyway given that the enforceability of this stretching of the vague ToS is laughable.

People will continue to leave their vehicles and the match whenever they want for whatever reason they want and it will only be the most sour of grapes CAS players who will bother go out of their way to try and report it.

If this was actually a significant problem it would be dealt with mechanically or specifically noted in the ToS like other actual infractions are e.g. teamkilling.

I know I’m not going to be reporting people for leaving their vehicles when I’ve sent an AGM flying towards them. That’s me done with this topic anyway.

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But any j-out is like kill denial because someone would have that kill in order for You to change the vehicle or leave the game.

Then we have wildly differing views on interpersonal communication tactics and their purposes and won’t come to any sort of agreement on this. Lets just agree to disagree here then.

Where have i brought up personal experiences from the game?

Again, as previously stated, If you actually read through the countless topics created on the subject you can see for yourself.

Why do you think that topic was brought up in one of the CM disclosure posts and top tier Anti Air vehicles such a big focus of this major update?

You might not like how they solved it or you might think it’s not enough, but it is most definitively something and not nothing.

I know I’d report you for unfair play if you, in your ground vehicle, dared killing my AA that can only target air vehicles.

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The issue starts when you j-out with the purpose of denying a kill.

Second match of the the day, had two people J-Out of their vehicles, denying 2 potential kills, which would have contributed to the match. They have both been reported for being Filthy Kill Deniers, regardless of the reason why they left their vehicles. /s

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No foul play in denying an unfair kill.

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That is still denying a kill for an enemy.

If You got stuck and cannot move, it is Your fault for driving that way and enemy should be able to take advantage of it. Why deny that kill? Making assumption that someone won’t be able to find You is again just an assumption. You should not be able to do that.

I won’t be talking about situations where enemy is still going to get a kill as they are not on topic.

All j-outs should just leave Your vehicle to be without You controlling them (same when You disconnect). That way no one would be “hurt”.

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Is there any council that will determine that “this J-out was to deny a kill and that J-out was not”? Or we will be using a crystal ball for it?

half of your post i see in this forum are insults to other people.

You J out you pay the rep cost anyway so why J out.

It’s just pure toxic play and sweaty. Oh no my KD will drop if I die.

Please go and play another game War thunder is not meant to be played like this.

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No doubt you have receipts?

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J-out literally gives you death to k/d

No, I just dislike unfair things.

It’s not about the repair cost, it’s about the unfair nature of the engagement.

Please, follow your advice, thanks

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You are in mixed battles…

Doesn’t excuse it to have unfair stuff.