SP Price imbalance between SPAAGMs and aircraft in Ground Realistic Battles

The worst? This isn‘t starstreak. And it’s a missile used by MULTIPLE nato nations. They nerfed it a while ago for „balans“.

As usual tho, as we say in Germany: „Ein Schelm, wer böses denkt“…

that already implies that you at least made 2 kills, maybe even more if you take pot shots at other tanks at the same time.
CAS just getting a complete free run is the problem.
the lower spawn points of the spaa specialy is meaned so that players can J out and spawn spaas in reaction.
Most spaas cant do anything else besides waiting for planes, this can be boring, who would have thought, and the game doesnt wanna “cripple” you for a that decision

his problem is not one teammate J ing out to react towards CAS, but people spawning consecutively in spaas without repercusions basicaly

@Norm_Von_Dolbit and here i wanna point out the that the OPs threadsa problem is not the consecutive respawn of SPAAS, but the general point SP imbalance.
I might even agree that a second spawn spaa of the same type should be more expensive.
At least as other tanks.
Important here same type, cause someone wanting to respawn in a saclos SPAA after having his fnf SAM killed by LDRCCM helis should not be punished.

great the person with the worst spaa takes is here

Also for spaa - they have limited fire arcs when among buildings

And good for locating enemies from the air, since there is limited / no cover.

@Norm_Von_Dolbit @ДжоБидон

Small show of a good friend of mine

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https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/495855460383368079

Thanks to @Dontkev-psn for providing a stellar replay of a Tornado SLE

And what that supposed to demonstrate except that no amount of technological advantage can help bad Pantsir players? Not to mention first screenshot is air-to-air kills.

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that all happend in the same match, and i thought spaas are so easy?

It’s literally useless. You have provided no useful data at all. I could show you a match of me taking out 7 aircraft using the Tor-M1, but what does that prove? Nothing at all. You clearly don’t understand how evidence works, and your way of thinking is unscientific.

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Why are your referring to yourself in 3rd person? Kinda narc ngl

complained was CAS cant do their job cause of Spaas and that their prices are unfair.
We see a great example of CAS aircraft still dealing a ton of damage to the enemy and even taking out 2 spaas in the progress

Just ignore him, he wont bring anything meaningful to the discussion

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got 10 kills in a plane 4 in my tank and i was still third in my team with barely 2300 mission score rewards from planes is not good in ground rb as far as spawn points and mission score go

very rare games caused by many people wanting to benefit from making a nation have the best spaa best cas best anti radiation missiles better counter to helis hence 50-60% of people being in a queue for one country

whats the point of spawning the IRST iwth the sm-sv on your team…you cant do anything to ldircm heli missiles can get flared easily since almost any except american planes have maws…so fighting russia most spaa is gonna be the pantsir

air kills as in spaas shooting down planes, how much that rewards sp and points

exactly, russia has the best in a lot of stuff and is realy popular cause of that resulting in them even getting matched to each other.

yep

never gonna forget i spawned 20km away from a sm-sv he saw me shot the mach jesus missile and in like 5 seconds it hit me despite flying low and with no clear line of site since i was behind 20km worth of trees

People seem to really enjoy showing one battle instead of bigger picture.
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1.6 kill/spawn is far from dealing ton of damage.

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Thats why i said with a tornado ske.
By no way is it a specialy good aircraft.
But it shows you can still have great rounds eith it

Yeah right, if spaa provide same or more spawn points, research points and silverlions then everybody would start spawning spaa like Gepard, Flakpanzer 341, XM246 and every spaa that has autocannons as first verhicle instead of tanks provide more xp then premium verhicle.

You can. But that still means nothing when we are talking about:

Because it doesnt happen constantly. What is constant is 1-2 kills each spawn. 1 good battle drowns in 0, 1 or maybe 2 kill games. That is what I dislike about your statement.

Your example proves only that a singular match happened, in which a player using the Tornado IDS SLE achieved 12 kills. However, according to all available statistics, that is an outlier, and not representative of the wider data. For all we know, the likelihood of >=12 kills with an aircraft in a single match may be 1 in a hundred, a thousand, a myriad, or a gaijillion matches. Nowhere have you proved that CAS aircraft are effective, or that CAS prices are fair, or anything else at all; you have not even made a single valid argument, let alone a sound one.

And I am frustrated I even have to say this at all, because the level of intelligence such as yours is inferior to most students of the first grade. There is an obvious lack of the knowledge known as “common sense” in everything you write.

Doesn’t change the fact that I’d consider stinger more a threat than rolands

And for starstreak, ping and pl matters a lot so I won’t comment on it/

and thats the sweet spot which is good.
You seem to have missed the point a bit.
Yes, CAS has a way higher skill ceiling, and that is good.
Its still GRB and not a CAS simulator, CAS can kill an entire Team, if they have a good run and the skill.
If you want to be able to play your fantasy of killing the entire team, you have to work for it.
If every Larry could do it, where is the point in that? You could trash GRB alltogether at that point if every game the entire enemy team starts killing teams.
The first to fly in a CAS is supposed to automaticaly win?