So I was trying to figure out which CA-27 from Indonesia was the alleged Mk.31 to maybe find more detail, like if it was maybe converted to Mk.32 standard (so it would be identical in game), but I found out that it seems to be a complete mistake. Indonesia never had a Mk.31 at all, all of there airframes were built as Mk.32
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Mk.32s are A94-943 to 991 and 351 to 372, while Mk.31s would be 901 to 942 only.
Now I wonder under which flag CA-27 will fly if they actually come to Japan TT.
On one hand, Indonesia is the second largest user, but on the other Malaysia already have established sub-TT line so it’s easier to implement. So, I think it’s the later.
That’s a good question honestly. I was expecting to see both with a Mk.32 for Malaysia and Mk.31 for Indonesia, but sadly the Indonesian Mk.31 never actually existed and they also only had Mk.32
Indonesia could get it alongside a proper Indonesian aircraft line, the subtree was officially confirmed almost a year ago and the fourth line in the air tree was kept free for a long time, so it’s not unlikely it could be here soon especially now after the Leopard 2RI (and two additional vehicles that were planned too, but delayed for not being ready) was added last update. The Indonesian CA-27 is also more unique because they integrated 80mm Oerlikon rockets to them while the Malaysian one is unmodified.
But at the same time Indonesia also has other aircraft that fit around the (likely 9.0) BR of the CA-27, things like the Hawk 53, Lim-5, Lim-6Bis and so on. Meanwhile the closest Malaysia have are the MB-339AM that’s comparable to the 7.7 MB-326K and would probably be ~8.0, or the A-4PTM that with AIM-9J and AGM-65A capabilities would be comparable to the 9.7 A-4N Ayit, on top of just not having a lot of different aircraft to add in the first place. So from an individual nation standpoint, Malaysia does need it more.
I guess all we can do is wait and see. Maybe they even make one squadron and the other techtree for example, or simply give the Indonesian one (for the unique rockets) the Malaysian camo so both can be there.
I don’t know if I’ve posted about this on the forum before, but the Malaysian Hawk 208 is VERY promising. All the Hawks we have now have the Adour engine with ~2390kgf thrust; that one has an Avon with ~4600kgf, pretty much twice the thrust.
That, plus the good RWR, radar, and well-rounded weapons have quickly made it one of my most anticipated aircraft.
Actually what is the source that Hawk 208 uses Avon engine? I can only find it from the OG suggestion post.
If I have to guess the only difference with the 209 would be AIM-9L and modeled air-refueling probe.
It’s an Adour not a Avon.
It’s not really plausible for the Avon to get fitted in the first place. The Avon ended production in '74, the Hawk 200s first flight was in '86, over a decade later, with deliveries not beginning until the 90s. The Avon is physically bigger too.
Good chance the later models got the Mk.951 bringing thrust up to 29kN though.
Looks like the AW159 “Wildcat” is next to get a WIP Devblog, I know the Phillipines use them but did Malaysia put in an order for it yet or are they still deciding?
I’m asking if Malaysia has decided on it or not yet, ik it’ll be added to the UK only by the looks of it (maybe Italy too since Augusta Westland + Leonardo)
Probably not, its was developed on commission for the British gov. We don’t see similar things (BAE products made on commission) in the british tree etc
nah, too bad we didn’t actually, even though the Lynx are aging currently and really in need of replacement, though given strong Leonardo presence in the country as it makes up a lot of govt service branches with AW139 and 189 it should be a no brainer but still hasn’t decided and waiting for the yearly budget rounds+corresponding 5 year plan (below)
so according to plan should start this year, and budget announcement will be around October, still they may announce it in any of those 5 years either early or late and also general election may be next year over here.
I also see plenty of local milfans prefer MH-60R as well, perhaps given their recent hatred to Leonardo and how the MoD procure them
EDIT: Budget for this year has been announced last year, for Navy has only touched for 2 MRSS procurement, while the Army received fund for 1 mid range AD battery (incremental procurement, and also hasn’t announced which SAM has been selected). Hence, this year and the following 3 would be a random guess when will the Lynx replacement budget be announced)