Southeast Asian (ASEAN) Machinery Of War Discussion Thread

So I was trying to figure out which CA-27 from Indonesia was the alleged Mk.31 to maybe find more detail, like if it was maybe converted to Mk.32 standard (so it would be identical in game), but I found out that it seems to be a complete mistake. Indonesia never had a Mk.31 at all, all of there airframes were built as Mk.32

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Mk.32s are A94-943 to 991 and 351 to 372, while Mk.31s would be 901 to 942 only.

A94-352 - Mk.32 (crashed on delivery)
A94-361 / F-8601 - Mk.32
A94-366 / F-8602 - Mk.32
A94-368 / F-8603 - Mk.32
A94-945 / F-8604 - Mk.32
A94-949 / F-8605 - Mk.32
A94-952 / F-8606 - Mk.32
A94-957 / F-8607 - Mk.32
A94-963 / F-8608 - Mk.32
A94-968 / F-8609 - Mk.32
A94-969 / F-8610 - Mk.32
A94-971 / F-8611 - Mk.32
A94-972 / F-8612 - Mk.32
A94-975 / F-8613 - Mk.32
A94-980 / F-8614 - Mk.32
A94-988 / F-8615 - Mk.32
A94-990 / F-8616 - Mk.32
A94-955 / F-8617 - Mk.32
A94-370 / F-8618 - Mk.32
A94-369 / F-8619 - Mk.32
A94-978 / F-8620 - Mk.32
A94-979 / F-8621 - Mk.32
A94-353 / F-8622 - Mk.32
A94-987 / F-8623 - Mk.32

So with that Indonesia can only get one variant of CA-27, the Mk.32

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Now I wonder under which flag CA-27 will fly if they actually come to Japan TT.
On one hand, Indonesia is the second largest user, but on the other Malaysia already have established sub-TT line so it’s easier to implement. So, I think it’s the later.

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That’s a good question honestly. I was expecting to see both with a Mk.32 for Malaysia and Mk.31 for Indonesia, but sadly the Indonesian Mk.31 never actually existed and they also only had Mk.32

Indonesia could get it alongside a proper Indonesian aircraft line, the subtree was officially confirmed almost a year ago and the fourth line in the air tree was kept free for a long time, so it’s not unlikely it could be here soon especially now after the Leopard 2RI (and two additional vehicles that were planned too, but delayed for not being ready) was added last update. The Indonesian CA-27 is also more unique because they integrated 80mm Oerlikon rockets to them while the Malaysian one is unmodified.

But at the same time Indonesia also has other aircraft that fit around the (likely 9.0) BR of the CA-27, things like the Hawk 53, Lim-5, Lim-6Bis and so on. Meanwhile the closest Malaysia have are the MB-339AM that’s comparable to the 7.7 MB-326K and would probably be ~8.0, or the A-4PTM that with AIM-9J and AGM-65A capabilities would be comparable to the 9.7 A-4N Ayit, on top of just not having a lot of different aircraft to add in the first place. So from an individual nation standpoint, Malaysia does need it more.

I guess all we can do is wait and see. Maybe they even make one squadron and the other techtree for example, or simply give the Indonesian one (for the unique rockets) the Malaysian camo so both can be there.

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could also just do both, one as a standard TT the other as premium or something

For 9.0 I think the Hawk 53 is still a better option since its a bit more unique than the others, and would sit at around the same BR

we also have quite literally tons of alternatives as well, so its not like we need to have the F-86 for us

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What if we change the current F-16AJ to Indonesian early F-16A? 🙏🙏🙏
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IIRC, same engine, same radar, just change the armament to remove AIM-7, AIM-9L, but give AIM-9P-4/P-5

F-16AJ is bound for the path of R2Y2 anyway, so might as well :v 👐👐

Wait The Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF) F8F Bearcat to rank III ~ IV, and indonesian aircraft piston engine

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Thai Gripen C “The Shark”, I hope someone make user skin for it.



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Low-vis shark mouth, that’s interesting

RE: M346

Article is correct, 12x M346FA Block 20

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I don’t know if I’ve posted about this on the forum before, but the Malaysian Hawk 208 is VERY promising. All the Hawks we have now have the Adour engine with ~2390kgf thrust; that one has an Avon with ~4600kgf, pretty much twice the thrust.

That, plus the good RWR, radar, and well-rounded weapons have quickly made it one of my most anticipated aircraft.

Actually what is the source that Hawk 208 uses Avon engine? I can only find it from the OG suggestion post.
If I have to guess the only difference with the 209 would be AIM-9L and modeled air-refueling probe.

I’m assuming the suggestion post is correct. If the suggestion was wrong, and it also used an Adour it would be very disappointing.