That is true, but they are still interesting and will help the teee below top tier. Gaijin also made the mistake of adding many copied vehicles to China, so Korean options can help make the tree more unique and appealing to new players.
I think in this specific case it makes a lot of sense. Just like Korea has the divide between North and South, China has the divide between PRC and ROC, so in this case the parallels make for a good argument for it.
Since Gaijin seems to be against a united Korean tree, this could be their chance to still get a united tree in function, while providing China the capabilities they need.
I am surprised how positve Korean reactions seem to be, though I only asked a few so far.
I will wait until I have more opinions, and then decide if I want to suggest the subtree.
Actually, I don’t quite understand why so many people are against this. If it is to avoid mixing Eastern and Western equipment, then I can barely understand it. But, well, there are so many ethnic Chinese in Singapore, and international relations are also friendly with China, I don’t understand why so many people oppose it (this question is definitely not a provocation, I promise).
Many of my compatriots thought that “this must be a conspiracy by other players (such as Japanese or British) to gain access to this competitive country”, and I was thrilled at first. On the other hand, some of my friends claim that Singaporeans they know (which is credible, I checked) have not reacted much to this incident. However, when I came here, I saw extremely heated arguments. At first, the debate was rational, but then (including me) turned into mutual attacks. My first purpose is to get a good enough (like the A7HU is for Italy) 12.0 tank for China, and experiencing the Leopard 2 is not so important (I’ll still go for it if it’s possible, haha, don’t be offended).
is Singapore the best choice for china as a subnation? i doubt it, High chance that pakistan would be the next subnation for china, now that japan as thailand and china is looking more and more to receive pakistan i guess israel will maybe receive singapore due to high relation between them and mutual export between the two country. and also bcs israel need a subnation.
WDYM ‘high relations’ between Israel and Singapore, the weapons at least are not related. I would think of Singapore as better to be the basis of brand new ASEAN tree or Chinese sub, cause both are Asian (a bit of a stretch but still better than Israel_ )
This thread is mainly used to talk/discuss about ASEAN vehicles. I wouldn’t continue this conversation since we’ve seen previously that it doesn’t lead anywhere.
israel was the only country that respond to the call of the singaporian army to help them… israel helped them to elaborate their army. and btw if you look at the original forum post about singapore its placed in the israely tt for a reason.
I just discovered a bunch of Myanmar’s domestic armored cars. Im trying to find more info right now to have a working proposal but Im hoping some of you guys know more about it - its the MAV IFV series:
I think aside from the MAV-1 which is only equipped with a 12.7mm HMG, the MAV series is equipped with a 20mm Hispano with the MAV-4 sporting a 40mm AGL as a secondary armament.
Theres also the ULARV-3 IFV prototype which was supposed to replace the BMP in Tatmadaw service but was instead defeated by the BTR-3 when they decided to procure that one instead back in 2012. Im not sure on the armament this brings though.
Additionally, there’s also vehicles based on the Tatmadaw’s domestic humvee variant which is the Naung Yoe utility vehicle - the MADV (Myanmar Air Defense Vehicle).
Also, unexpectedly, the Tatmadaw actually has the EE-9 Casacavel in its inventory, I think one was even recently captured by the rebels just recently.
It seems the Tatmadaw also has their own upgrade on the Belarussian Kvadrat, which is designated as the Kvadrat-M on a modernized 2K12 Kub (SA-6 Gainful) chassis with 9M38M1 or 9M317E missiles thats used on the Russian Buk-M1 and Buk-M2. Too bad, it seems like it needs to have its own separate radar unit though.
Myanmar may not receive Pantsir. This was probably announced before the embargo. Russia was supposed to deliver Pantsir within 2023. Yet there are no signs of Pantsir in Myanmar.
