Wait? A tracked vehicle capable of 105 kph top speed?
generally thats the consensus, would it hit that speed? probably not, do I think its feasable? ehh… maybe.
I mean it could be, since its mainly supposed to be for recon, it’s very light and relatively small compared to its contemporary +the rubber tracks as well, and it’s supposed to be airdroppable
Source for img = Instagram
the company is also known for making really light vehicles, like the P6 ATAV, so i would say this area is their specialty
P6 ATAV
@BalticSAS fsir enough got deleted cause ground talk in air thread.
U got any sources for a 2a8 in Singapore?
Because until it happens it is not set in stone.
Look at italy ,everyone expected them to get 2a8s, just for it to fall into water and them getting KF51s instead.
You missed the point, I was speaking about the potential of their vehicles in a future subtree and there is a hugely mysterious amount of contradicting evidence, half claims they did receive 2A7 standard tanks and half claim otherwise, however they are in talks with KMW to purchase more of the 2A8 spec regardless of if they received any 2a7s or not, and italy declined the 2a8 because they got too greedy and wanted to make huge changes to it.
Back on topic I still believe that Malaysia and Vietnam/myanmar belong in china, as a bare minumun for as far as southeast asian nations go, the rest can go to japan besides singapore, which is a black sheep. Although my overarching opinion is that ASEAN should be divided between china and japan so then neither side misses out
sooo you dont got any sources but just rumours etc
and italy wanted to keep capability to build tanks and to have parts from their own country / knowledge transfer. It is not greedy. Norway gets to build theirs as well.
It is that the overall planes werent able to fit together.
Still end of the day right now overall thailand propably is a better addition compared to SG.
While SG has a lot of great stuff, it still has potentiell left which isnt proven
I’d actually say Singapore is the most clearly “western” ASEAN nation next to maybe the Philippines.
They only operate a single vehicle with easzern tech, that being their own modernized M113A2 with license produced Igla missiles.
I hope so as well, though arguably China has options outside of ASEAN as well, such as Bangladesh, Pakistan and North Korea.
So I hope Japan would receive the 5 founding ASEAN nations, while China can still receive other ASEAN nations like Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar.
Vietnam already is in the Chinese tech tree. The ASEAN project really is only meant for the original 5 founding members of ASEAN which were Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, and Singapore. If we remove one, it is my opinion that it might ruin the integrity of an ‘ASEAN’ tree.
Its not also really necessary to add everything. Much more ‘REDFOR’ vehicles might be discarded in favor of more ‘BLUFOR’ ones just like the UK only has a single T-90.
still wanna see the vt-4 in the sub tree just to see chinese cry
Lol, Im not touching that issue with a 12 ft pole, that has been done to death in the forums lol
Would love to see Oplot seeing that even the A1 sucks like crap.
Given gaijin’s attitude to adding subtrees, the fact that japan got thailand in the way the have demonstrates the fact that there likely won’t be an ‘ASEAN subtree’ as the post suggests, it will likely be focused on thailand with a few individual additions from other nations to boost japan’s competitiveness in certain elements, although I am firm in my belief that Malaysian flankers belong in the chinese tree
They wouldn’t, or at least there is no reason to.
They aren’t happy with the current VT-4 implementation, so they would probably find it funny if Japan got the even worse Thai variant.
And having it in multiple nations also makes more players aware of the tanks issues, which might mean more of a push to have it fixed and can benefit Chinese tanks in game quite a bit.
Wouldn’t be the first time one nation came before others. Like how India came later than South Africa (and just now got the first techtree addition with the Osa).
Especially for air Thailand can’t really fill the 3 empty lines past rank 5, with even all of their options to be added in the future fitting in one line. This leaves a suspiciously ‘more ASEAN Founders’ shaped hole in the air tree.
As for the ground tree, Thailands subtree ends in a worse VT-4 and an Oplot with 3BM42, so some higher BR options would need to come from other nations here too.
It might have been true at the beginning, but this is no longer the case.
In fact, we want to see the VT-4 in Japan solely because Gaijin might find more incentive to fix inaccuracies with the VT-4, which will also benefit VT-4A1.
With this development, I respectfully ask you to change your opinion on the matter, thank you.
i will when i see it in japan and its actual reaction at the time
It’s up to Gaijin whether they will or will not add it.
But for the time being, there is no point in pursuing this matter further.
A large majority of the Chinese community doesn’t use this forum at all.
Exactly.
They will shout 100 times at Tieba instead of say ONE time at here, using rude language to other nation people, say how Rostec or a random Russian do and shout all Slavics(include Gaijin) hate China, refuse to report politicial nickname and say GM is a traitor to China
It’s just not a reliable way to gauge reactions. People in the past have twisted what originally started as misunderstandings on the Chinese forum to invoke horde mentality and started fights constantly. It’s not well-moderated, which is a problem with Tieba in general.
Second-hand messages deceived many people
I just saw someone said Smin(instead of Chinese CM though they both could be seemed as Gaijin official) promised Chinese producted vehicle won’t go to Japan TT
Btw, is there 2 Chinese are talking with English here?
You mean me? I am ethnic Chinese, yes.