This is just dishonest, we have discussed this before im certain. Gepards and core cant hit planes outside 2km effectively, unless the plane doesn’t do anything to dodge, its untouchable. The gepards give away their position and the CAS with CCIP or even some have Mavs or nords just swoop down and CAS from 3km away or more.
I also chose not to mention this in my original post but this is also an issue; there are usually not enough planes to actually shoot. This is not really fixable, you can not increase the amount of CAS without normal ground units just straight up being curb-stomped.
This is why i believe its not a good idea to straight up remove ground belts from SPAA, as they have in fact also been tested and proved to be effective IRL, there is a reason they exist. Although i agree APHE does need to be nerfed before it can be balanced.
Ground target K/D is ~1.87, which admittedly is quite impressive
Do you mean the SIDAM? As you probably know, the stock grind is extremely painful on that one. APDS is a tier 4 mod and until then you only have HE. But after that it’s not so bad. I’m guessing you didn’t play enough games to offset the incredibly poor anti-tank performance from the stock grind.
You could’ve done this with the pre-buff Flakpanzer 341, and most other SPAA probably. The M-51 and T34 being the only ones with armor. It was a result of good strategy on your part (well played) and the enemy playing into your hands with vehicle choice and not watching their sides
Proxy easily beats out most other SPAA even if they have radar, especially the WZ305. Sgt York is also quite goofy and has the bonus of being radar guided and tracerless. I would definetly take the WZ305 over a gepard, sadly i haven’t grinded out china yet tho
Okay have you considered, maybe, flying in valleys and dips, or flying at more than 5k meters in altitude if its a flat map. And no, you can know where SPAAs are quite cosistently. LTs can spot them and otherwise you can assume they’re in their spawn (at lest the ones actively trying to engage air with their radar on) due to the fact that they’re very exposed to ground fire otherwise. also its not very easy to tell there is a bomb dropped on you if there are more than one thing engaging you, which happens more than you may realise.
Ah yes give them 10km missiles or all 8.0+ jets 10km CCIP, even unhistorically. /j
CAS is definitely viable at this BR, its just not as much as it is at 6.7 - 7.7, where it curb stomps anything. You’re experiencing what is referred to as balance, SPAA can engage CAS effectively (for the most part, and actually know where it is and if its there in the first place) and most CAS has measures to engage relatively safely. I’m sorry, its just a skill issue.
Yes it is in need of decompression, wholeheartedly agree… However;
Lol, Lmao even.
You realise moving up is only going to compress further (the very thing we both agree is bad), shoving things up fixes nothing. and wanting the Gepard moved up this much only proves you have a some sort of skill issue, I’m sorry. The Gepard is defenceless against any CAS at this BR.
You have played Gepards so you should know how bad they are at killing things beyond 2.5km, you’re being disingenuous.
You’ll find this is the case for all of the SPAA. People whinge and whine but most of the time you’re simply outplaying the enemy. Here’s another nuke from last night where I just sat in one spot all game and they kept feeding me (full unedited recording):
Standard protocol for heavies is to de-gun, de-track and then cupola delete, unless a nice side shot is provided. For example:
@ 2:45 I de-track, de-gun, and delete a T32E1 via its cupola
@ 5:42 I pop a T95 via its cupola
And I’ve already posted videos in other topics of the Flakpanzer 341 just doing funny stuff now, like frontally deleting IS4s, etc. But outplaying your enemy with side shots is still your bread and butter. And the biggest joy comes from cleaning up the light vehicles that would previously have run riot on the Tiger IIs and others on your team (M18, etc).
Also, lets not forget that the 8.3 SPAA such as the Falcon live off no-armour MBTs like the Leopard I, it’s why I enjoy the Falcon more that it is 8.3 than when it was 7.3 (and later 7.7).
Not really. Just because you’re a heavy tank doesn’t mean you just waltz on in with your gun exposed around corners. Though, we can all agree that the cupola nuking from APHE is quite absurd. He would have died, either way with his gun gone, tracks gone, and full exposure to the enemy team.
