Something needs to be done about 8.3 - 9.0 SPAA [Poll]

SPAA around 8.3 to 9.0 needs their APHE rounds removed. Vehicles like Gepard, AMX30 S DCA, ZA-35, ItsPsV Leopard, PZG09, XM246, XM247, Falcon, Chieftain Marksman, etc. has been very broken and is a rising problem for a long time now.

They are very, and I mean very potent against everything it faces. Light tanks? Vaporized. Medium tank? Nice cupola you got there. Heavy tank? a single pixel of your cupola is enough. Tank destroyer? (a lot of soft HE slinger target around these BR) Also vaporized. I play a lot of 8.3 recently and everyone is just playing these SPAA lol.

It’s becoming more and more common that half my team are just these SPAA, even I abuse the hell out of this problem with the XM246 (I got a k/d of 1.9 with it against ground kills alone).


Should Gaijin do something about this?

  • Yes, move them up in BR
  • Yes, remove the APHE and Dart rounds and only let them have HE rounds for anti-air job only like they are intended
  • No, these SPAA are balanced and if you got killed by them then you are just bad
  • No comment
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the community had a chance to do something about it, but they voted no to even test it because they didnt want to aim better

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That community vote was a while ago and have a large impact on 1.0 - 7.7 tanks because they rely largely on APHE. What I’m asking for is nerfing these SPAA specifically, not APHE rounds.

If there is no nerfing these SPAA then I don’t care either cause I’m just gonna keep printing SL with them. I made this poll because I see the problem and I hope Gaijin see it too.

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Other:

Implement the overhauled APHE that the community voted against for some stupid reason and then go from there,

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The dream

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An issue not adressed here is that killing air targets gives like half the rewards killing tanks does, give the player a bigger incentive to kill air targets and it should even out

Would also do a lot to fixx the issue I agree

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I’m still salty asf about that

Making them literally useless EXCEPT for the EXPLICIT job of anti air is a really dumb idea that isn’t thought out at all ahead of time. That said, they do need some sort of adjustment. Ideally, gaijin FIXES GLOBAL APHE DAMAGE so their 35mms aren’t 1 tapping through cupolas.

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Yeah which is the issue. You want them to either 1. go up in BR (making them useless as anti air) or 2. removing all anti tank potential which means they’re just useless in general.

Totally agree! As you know players love to spam broken and op vehicles. Relying on a poll may result in a double edged sword.

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Yes, we should remove their option to deal with ground units so even less people will be likely to use it as everyone likes to be unable to fight back!

Sounds like making it easier for one team to dominate

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You know, maybe a better solution would be having SPAAs with powerful cannons, but on a normal chassis? Like Zestorer for example?.. I mean instead of R3 and btr-zd or whatever this thing is called. Mobility is a main motivation for annoying gameplay so maybe just stop adding them?

How much would’ve the APHE changes even changed in regards to SPAA?

I want gaijin to change how SPAA APHE works because it’s quite buggy and unfair to play against, but I don’t trust them at all to rebalance the lower tiers after a full APHE rework. My other issue with the APHE rework would that solid shot, APDS, and APCR will all still be bad rounds, and that needing APHE doesn’t make them better.

I think SPAA should get a light tank spawn cost if they are using their AP rounds just so the spam is lessened.

What if we took away the APHE rounds, but let them keep the limited APDS belt. It still leaves them a way to counter ground, but very limited.

i remember that i will never forget we had big chance to balance the nuke shells but sadly a lot of people voted no and here we are now

but my suggest is they should add this system for AA system because AA is ruining and killing so many brs i quit 8.0 to 10.0 br because the spamm of AA

That’s what tanks are for?

XM246 got a shit chassy, easily one of the worst chassy out of all the AA I mentioned, but it’s still busted cuz i can still kill everything from the front, no need to flank for side shots.

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So we are going to make one class of vehicle that is capable of dealing with the air unable to fight back against other ground vehicles?

Great idea that would only allow players to go around the map and hunt down SPAAs that can’t do anything to them. It will encourage even more players to use AA!

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wow it’s almost like anti-aircraft vehicle are designed to kill air and not tanks

if the enemy get to your spawn, at that point the game is already over

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No. They should be able to participate more than for 3 seconds of firing.

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