Well the squadron swiss hunter is 9.7 in GRB, 65B just has the unpronouncable swiss designation so its easy to miss.
Sure, thast neither here or there. Mavs squeeze bit more range when launched from low alt or low speed as opposed to walleyes, and higher speed also gives them better manueverability, but walleyes limitations can be played around so its not that big of a deal.
np.
On old wiki its listed as its separate thing, god knows why, but on new its listed together with all the other 65B carriers.
For swiss F-5E its listed as 65B too instead of its swiss designation, so probably a relic back from when swiss squadron hunter was first added.
Which takes at most 3 minutes, the gepard is not getting more than 1 kill in that time if he is playing SPAA, because he is playing near his spawn or his side of the map not the middle.
You can’t really have a reference to place your crosshairs to where the helicopter strafed left or right to when all you see is blue sky. That’s also assuming the helicopter is in a perfect unchanging loop of strafing. This is also assuming he doesn’t use the 3,5 seconds of tracers heading his way to react. It’s not bad aim, it’s too low effective range. A gepard can in theory hit a completely un maneuvering target at 4 - 5km, but if you’re not maneuvering as a plane or heli you’re not using everything at your disposal, the gepard is.
With this logic I am within shotgun range of the moon, I can easily fire at it, therefor it is within my range no?
That’s 3 minutes of downtime that the Gepard never experiences.
Just sweep back and forth. Even if it isn’t a consistent loop, it still has very high chances of killing them.
There is not a single gun or cannon on earth that could hit the moon. Where on (or off) earth did you come up with that analogy?
CAS should have pros and cons, you’re arguing for it to not have CONS, without a rearm you dont give the ground time to breathe at all, its a good thing to have breaks in engagements, dont see why you see this as a bad thing.
If the’re outside 2km (which they will be if they’re smart) that strategy has at most a 1 - 2% chance of hitting them. And the Heli can just avoid the wide net SPAA is casting by looking at where it is, and moving to the side accordingly, making the whole salvo pointless
I seem to have misread a word in your sentence my apologies.
Helies do outrange the gepards effective range (which it has at least a 20% chance of hitting anything)
This is due to two factors: Horrible accuracy beyond 2km, Bullet travel time. If the CAS isnt braindead it’s more or less untouchable.
Exactly what im saying, but too many people still like it and don’t care about the unrealism and broken game technique
No, I’m agurng that the pros don’t outweigh the cons. The difficulty associated with fighting SPAA in a helicopter, and the small number of kills helicopters typically get simply doesn’t warrant spawning them in most situations.
Despite that, ppl still spawn Alouettes and they’re one of my favorite sources of free kills.
You’re clearly doing something wrong cause I have not been experiencing difficulty fighting helicopters at all.
Even if it’s not a high chance of hitting, it’s high enough to force em to maneuver and fail to hit their target. Making a helicopter waste a missile is still a W even if you don’t kill em.
8.3 spaa is pretty easy to evade as a heli, you just have to look out for proxy fuze tanks which post often arent spaa. having to fight at like 2-3km distance with a heli is not a big deal and you do not hit them even with the faster apds. and bringing up the hold w is such a strawman since the only real way to waste missiles is either using smoke or cover.
It’s easy then surely everyone would be doing it perfectly.
Which means an SPAA player is lacking the basic capability to A. find cover and pop out at the right moment (Credit to ground players who always ask plane to do so) B. Suppress fire since MCLOS would have a hard time doing off-bore, KH25s would require some accurate mouse tracking for off-bore. Not for mavs C. Move a tiny inch after popping smoke (credit to a guy I killed) D. Be a good TD to make the full use of 70sp (lol i am off topic but back to thread topic)
There are reasons behind the low plane amount at around the BR. Yes f58 that’s the issue with THE specific vehicle who holds a lower BR than most planes that are far worse than it.
Glad A4E is useful here.
And the biggest issue of around 9.3 could be 9.3-10.3 where hellfires start to appear. Fixed wings? nah who would see any of them anyways. a10al is 10.7, above our criteria.
I’m pretty sure there is balance for Heli alone at 3km range, aka not as bad as fixed wing, yet the msl handling… I’m actually thinking about actual MCLOS and lower BR xD
The main problem that people complain its the fact you get one tapped from the front with just 1 single tap
Thats overpressure issues,just remove overpressure from those belts and you will be set for a starter to implement later on another fix
For overpressure mechanic to exist, you need at least ~180 grams of TNT.
The 35mms aren’t overpressuring you.
They only have ~27g to maybe ~30g of TNT.
They just so happen to slip between the cracks of armour plates and exploding, or the cupola, or killing you by ricocheting via trap shot into your crew compartment.
Some map doesnt even have cover
MCLOS missile still outranges u. Planes like A4E Early have guided bomb and u can actually use the camera on the bomb as a makeshift targeting pod, letting you see a little further and land accurate Bullpups shot
Yea the f58 needs to go up for GRB, its stupid
It can but rare, its a bug
WZ305 MasterRace
China has that too in the PGZ09, without tracers, also. But the WZ305 is so easy to aim at long range, I often take it out instead of the 09.
Overhaul APHE, but correctly, an APHE shell with a fuze distance of 1.5m shouldn’t explode in the center of a 50cm diameter cupola in the first place. That doesn’t make sense and should be considered a bug. (I’m not referring to the Gepard’s shell specifically because the stat card doesn’t give the fuze distance there, but it applies to APHE in general and 1.5m fuze shells do this as well)
not always hapening… and it can be the heli player or the spaa
No you are, based on what I’ve seen you want helies to do the following:
What could possibly be bad with helies at this point (if we implement your usggested changes)? there would be no cons. SPAA cant hit you but you can spam missiles as much as you’d like.
I’m guessing you’re talking about alouettes who fly towards the battlefield without a second thought, or helies who hover in place. It is very unlikely to hit a heli who knows what theyre doing beyond 2.5km, which almost all helies can do at that BR and still get kills.
I don’t see how youre missing by maneuvering, I don’t see why i have to explain this, but the heli optic is stabilized, the only way youre missing is if you turn the nose of the helicopter away from your target, which you shouldnt be doing.
Also counterpoint, no its not a W, its just stalling for time. Blocking a shot with youre armour in something like an abrams wont save you if you’re breech is shot out (which the gepard effectively is due to being outranged) it will only stall for time.
They are actually, the ones that actually see the mistakes theyre doing and avoid flying too close to SPAA.
