M247 can also over pressure T-72s frontally by maguc
What makes you believe 100 games is necessary?
My T58 the op tank you claimed would be balanced, I have a 4.268 kd in right now. And, have a little over 100 games
Bigger the number, more representative it is when it comes to variety of maps, teams, modes and B.R. You are going to face.
100 is just a symbolic number out of back as there always has to be one
I recorded 100 games in order to determine the B.R. placement and W/R of 5.7 russia set up but the biggest conclusion is that server and time of day/week plays a big role same with server
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Well these SPAA are the rapid auto-cannons META now. Sure you got the fox and xm800T, but they are not good anymore. These SPAA are way better and there isnt a light tank around 8.3 that can match it.
When I play xm246, I normally face HE slinger, uptiered Russian heavies, light tanks, medium tanks, and enemy SPAA that is doing the same thing I am and I can kill all of these targets I come across no problem
Against guided munition like bullpups, you are gona die my guy. Back when the A4E Early was 8.7 in GRB I smoke every single gepard or any 8.3 AA for that matter, its not even fair. Doesnt matter if they move or not.
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Yea, I’d say its “good” not “OP”. The 35mm has great velocity and fire rate, an amazing gun. But it isnt OP by any means against air target because it doesnt have proxy shell or anything special so turning is enough to dodge it.
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No, based on the overall statistics which are objective, but yes might not be overall accurate to what you die in. Im more inclined to use that than “source trust me bro” for your supposed 8 K/D. And if its so vehemently broken as you suggest how come i dont see many other people complaining about it? Pretty much you and a couple others, no more.
Although him and I have had some disagreements in the past, i base my stance on what i perceive, which is subjective yes, to be relatively objectively correct. I dont base my stance on where Alvis stands on the matter, thats idiotic.
Fairly, not a veteran by most means, but I’ve been here a little while, since 2024 ish. I know some of Pangolins controversial takes to say the least, but i dont like to do personal attacks since its childish.
Although i do agree to some extent, the bigger issue is compression, 7.3 jets yes will struggle a little with SPAA, but they’re still fairly mobile and can drop their bombs quite comfortably from 4km away and still nab kills. However, like i tried to explain already moving thins up every time there is imbalance does not fix compression, only pushes it further up the ladder.
Last i heard in this thread i believe actually, someone said overpressure stack on that thing had been patched, but ig take it with a grain of salt or two,
pretty sure they fixed it cuz I can’t do it when i tried
The issue i think is perspective. I wouldn’t call the gepard bad, but its not really great by any means, just finally competitive. So if you compare it to 6.3 CAS of course its going to seem like a dream machine, but in reality its just that it can finally compete against air.
The guns have horrible accuracy beyond about 1.5km and make it laughably obvious where the gepard is. Damage is surprisingly bad for the caliber, its inconsistent and sometimes will just “hit” targets. The gepard can hold its own, but its nothing beyond just decent against it own bracket, in a full downtier it does perform quite nicely yes, but its of course the reverse in a full uptier.
Eidt: sorry for spam, ill try gather my responses better forward
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2019 / 2018 Jumbo was 5.0/ 5.3. Different environment where you may have faced easier opponents.
It’s not 6.0 because it’s barely viable at 5.7 when you consider the number of 6.3 / 6.7 matches you end up being at( it can face the Tiger II H in a full uptier for some reason lol)
Sorry but this is a skill issue
Thos spaa are peper full of ammo how hard is it to kill them?
For every spaa that kills me i kill 10
Your reply was already refuted before you hit post.
I understood your concerns though.
Edit removed language I deemed rude.
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Fair enough.
I can’t say 2 K/D is that good, though I’m not sure what your average performance is at that BR… let alone with such a small sample size.
Again, the jumbo (even when exploiting the cupola weakspots of some tanks) isn’t 6.0 because it isn’t all that great at 5.7 to begin with.
I had played the jumbo when it was 5.7 too and I can’t understand why it can face Tiger IIs, let alone in a 0.7 BR uptier if you’re implying that it should be 6.0. I had a similar K/D as you, which is quite underwhelming compared to the other tanks I have been playing around that BR.
Because certain CCs couldn’t imagine having to aim so they used their communities to skew the vote in their favor*
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It would nerf all APHE slingers, which can affect some tanks more than others…
There would probably need a relatively large restructure of mid-tier and low-tier vehicles, and I’m not quite sure how Gaijin would handle it.
To fix the SPAA APHE slinger problem, I think the APHE nerf can be implemented for APHE calibers of less than 40mm, which would mostly just affect SPAAs, which is the intended target.
They could start by moving the jumbos down since they’d no longer be stabilized one shot killers
Most of the time (from my experience), you often need more than one shot (often two or three) to kill most things in front aspect (especially if you’re going for cupolas and / or front-plate shots with APCR).
For side-aspect shots, though, I agree with you.
That being said, I agree that it should be moved down to 5.3… maybe 5.0 if the change is that bad for it.
The Gepards, and especially the Za-35, have been complained about for years. It’s not like there’s some small portion of the WT community that thinks the Gepards are too strong, it’s pretty much everyone who reaches 8.3.
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