Some Frustrations and Suggestions from a Japan Main

[Rowiek]

Yeah! Would love to see it some time soon. Especially with Rank IX coming in introducing more C&P.

[Stockholm_Blend]

@MAUSWAFFE

So for example instead of giving the US the Thai operated Stingray, they could’ve gotten the Cadillac Gage prototype Stingray.

Clarification: he wants to remove Stingray from Thai and make it a US Exclusive because copy-paste is bad.
Even though Congress didn’t buy Stingray, and it was not on US Service.
Because nothing but it is US Built vehicle.

@MAUSWAFFE

For example the Thai M60A3 TTS could’ve been made more interesting with researchable WERA (wooden add-on armor).

Wooden ERA seems like a really cool addition.

[MAUSWAFFE]

@Stockholm_Blend

Clarification: he wants to remove Stingray from Thai and make it a US Exclusive because copy-paste is bad.
Even though Congress didn’t buy Stingray, and it was not on US Service.

Yeah, that’d be a bit weird considering it was an entirely private Cadillac Gage project aimed primarily at export. I understand the Stingray prototypes, despite them not being trialed by the US at all, since it’s at least an American company, but not the Thai service configuration.

@Stockholm_Blend

Wooden ERA seems like a really cool addition.

Sadly not real ERA, just a funny name for the armor made for the suggestion. But it’s still an interesting add-on with good side coverage made from holy wood.

Royal Thai Army’s M60A3 TTS "WERA": Wooden Environmentally Recyclable Armor

poll Royal Thai Army’s M60A3 TTS “WERA”: Wooden Environmentally Recyclable Armor [grafik] Hi and welcome to my 37th suggestion, which is about the Royal Thai Army’s M60A3 TTS with some special armor, hope you like it. [:popcorn:] First of all: Feel free to share more Information and / or correct me if something is wrong Discuss respectfully, any aggressive kind or verbal abuse will be reported, the Forum rules also apply here Disclaimer: The designation “WERA” is my “own creation” and meant…

[Zulizia]

@CollectorOfSins

I’m only here waiting for F15JSI

Doesn’t exist yet. Will probably never come to the game at this rate.

@CollectorOfSins

and f2 super kai

Doesn’t exist, only existed on paper. Move on from the tree if the only thing you’re waiting for is an ongoing upgrade in its very early stages and a paper variant. Most we’ll get in the future with the F-2 is an F-2 Early (possibly 9Ls, but otherwise identical to ADTW) and an F-2 Late (AAM-5, maybe tested HMD)

[CollectorOfSins]

@Zulizia

F-2 Late (AAM-5, maybe tested HMD)

I will wait for this, F2 is one of my favorite planes. Imagine HMD and AAM5 and AAM4B. Insnae.
Both the SI and Kai are still possible, I have a feeling that Gaijin won’t make top tier in Japan not Japanese.

[MAUSWAFFE]

@CollectorOfSins

I’m only here waiting for F15JSI and f2 super kai.

Sadly I don’t think we will see those anytime soon, F-15JSI is still not real and F-2 Super Kai was only a proposal that lost out to the F-35.

But if you want a Japanese aircraft to look forward too, there might be a chance for a unique 5th gen once the game gets to that point. Not only was there a lot of components to it made (also a flying demonstrator, but that’s technically a different aircraft), but there’s also a surprising amount of detail on it especially compared to other 5th gen aircraft.

Mitsubishi 26DMU - Japan's F-3 "Prototype"

[image] Firstly, no, this is not a paper vehicle, several components including RAM, the engine, fuselage components, and potentially a radar were all constructed and tested. This firmly places it as an “Unfinished Prototype”, and valid to be added to the game as such. If you’re unsure about it and don’t wanna read it’s history, just look at it as an early prototype design for the F-3, or an armed further development of the shinshin, as it’s somewhere between those two things. History:

Spoile…

[Zulizia]

@CollectorOfSins

Both the SI and Kai are still possible,

The JSI maybe, depends how much the Japanese MoD reveals.
The Kai was an idea, never tested and never reached past the talking stage. Its just as real as the Tiger II 10.5cm

[CollectorOfSins]

Interesting, first time hearing of this prototype. Once USA gets the f22 raptor, I can see Japan maybe getting this and Korea getting the kf21 similarly. The game would be stale with just F22, su57, j20.

[Grzegames]

Yes, Gajin is preparing C&P F-35A and B, and then C&P from subtrees. That’s all Gajin knows how to do (they added a paper C&P F-16AJ instead of the real XF-2). This company has ruined my enjoyment of their game. They only want money.

[CollectorOfSins]

So Gaijin added these before, I still think its possible. They got to make it up after adding f2 way too late. Please Gaijin let me hope

[Wiggly_Armed_Man]

Yes, Gajin is preparing C&P F-35A and B, and then C&P from subtrees.

I mean, what else are you expecting? Pretty much everyone in the world uses any of the same three aircraft at this point. It’s not a bug that Gaijin is giving everyone largely the same aircraft, it’s just a feature of modern warfare.

[Zulizia]

@CollectorOfSins

So Gaijin added these before, I still think its possible.

And removed them… The Tiger 10.5cm at the time was questionable, the Super Kai is a very well known paper variant. Everything surrounding the F-2 is pretty secretive, eg we know they tested HMD but we have no other information or proof that the base F-2 can use it, so it’s not added.

[Grzegames]

You know, there’s also this:

Mitsubishi 26DMU - Japan's F-3 "Prototype"

[image] Firstly, no, this is not a paper vehicle, several components including RAM, the engine, fuselage components, and potentially a radar were all constructed and tested. This firmly places it as an “Unfinished Prototype”, and valid to be added to the game as such. If you’re unsure about it and don’t wanna read it’s history, just look at it as an early prototype design for the F-3, or an armed further development of the shinshin, as it’s somewhere between those two things. History:

Spoile…

[Wiggly_Armed_Man]

Yes, and there’s also the F-35 which is actually Japan’s most modern fighter aircraft at the moment.

[Zulizia]

@Grzegames

Yes, Gajin is preparing C&P F-35A and B, and then C&P from subtrees.

I mean, what were you expecting? Its cheaper to get the F-35 then to make your own 5th Gen from scratch.

@Grzegames

(they added a paper C&P F-16AJ instead of the real XF-2)

What was the F-16AJ copy and pasted from exactly? There’s only four Block 10s in the game- The Netz/Netz (MOD), F-16A (US) and F-16AJ. The AJ uses different armament to all of them.

[CollectorOfSins]

I thought it was copied from f16a

[Grzegames]

So the F-16AJ is just an F-16A Block 10 with different armament, or are there any other differences?

[CollectorOfSins]

I think we need to find or wait for more concrete evidence for the HMD. It’s going to help the F2 so much. They can even add a new variant at like 14.0.

[Zulizia]

The US F-16A is a Block 10 with only 9Ls, the F-16AJ has a different radar, armament (7F and JM61A1)

[MAUSWAFFE]

@Grzegames

C&P F-35A and B

I hope they at least allow JNAAM to be more unique. It’d be a shame if F-35s were all the same when there is a prototype missile meant for the F-35s that would be interesting in game.

It’s also based on the Meteor body that is integrated with the F-35, so fitment isn’t an issue.

@Grzegames

they added a paper C&P F-16AJ instead of the real XF-2

They also added a made up fake F-16 variant instead of even the proposed F-16AJ. That addition is pretty much the worst decision making Gaijin has ever shown.

They could’ve added an XF-2A/B, they could’ve added a Thai / Indonesian F-16A, they could’ve added the F-14J that was actually considered far more seriously and actually trialed, they could’ve at least followed the proposal to make it accurate to what it was meant to be, but they did none of that.
Instead we have a fictional, downgraded configuration with removed features that doesn’t meet the minimum requirements of the competition it was submitted for anymore.