So we will get ANOTHER russian spaa?

[Whisloy]

@PyroAddict

But I guess ruskies are simply unskilled when an SPAA requires an extra couple steps, its clear by the gap between the S1 and the BUK.

So where you going to hide Buk ? Behind the building ? Awesome now you can only rely on TADS radar which is really really slow.

[ТрезвымНеИграю]

Ok, since we’re talking about positioning, I’ll show you why buk is the worst one, have you seen its sizes? Try to hide it lmao. Didn’t know western community considers 1-click gameplay skillful 😂😂

[Zitrone3_2]

launcher radar goes through solid walls if you stand close btw.

you can see that bug here

[Zitrone3_2]

LMAO trying to bring size as an argument with the sky sabre and SLM in game … ALSO the top part of the BUKs radar doesnt even have a hitbox

[Λ_N_G_Ξ_L]

@губкагомик

We will forget about China

China just moved Russia’s tor in 7 tir to 8 tir

[Kievskiy_Minipig]

@PyroAddict

Literally TADS positioning requires skill to be both concealed and useful enough on altitude to get a good scan of the airspace.

Its not that hard tho? So saying it requires skill is exaggerating imo.

Also you use this “skill” at start of battle and it becomes useless after you spawn launchers wherever you need. For rest of battle its lmb/rmb gaming which has nothing to do with skill.

[губкагомик]

@Zitrone3_2

because russia has a huge playercount so you will have russian SPAA’s all trying to kill one plane.
→ Kills will be split over multiple players → lower K/D per player

Prove it with statistics, not words

@губкагомик

Or do you have some other metric that would better demonstrate the effectiveness of the vehicles?

[Λ_N_G_Ξ_L]

@губкагомик

That’s why the Pantsir has a higher K/D than the Buk

And the FSAF SAMP/T has a higher K/D than the Pantsir and the Buk.

This is Russian player problem

[Zitrone3_2]

@губкагомик

Prove it with statistics, not words

Prove its not like that. The burden of proof lies with you, not me

@губкагомик

Or do you have some other metric that would better demonstrate the effectiveness of the vehicles?

Kills per Match would be good, but we dont have that

[PyroAddict]

@Kievskiy_Minipig

Its not that hard tho? So saying it requires skill is exaggerating imo.

I’m not so sure, but when players tell american mains to improve their positioning with their Abrams, I’m pretty sure they imply that positioning requires skill.

And I agree with that approach, positioning and concealment (with a huge radar such as the BUK’s) requires skill, simple as.

[Zitrone3_2]

@губкагомик

Prove it with statistics, not words

Why is the French Leo 2a4’s KD higher then the german one?

By your logic K/D is ONLY influenced by how good the vehicle is, so are they that diffrent?

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Ok if you want arguments here you go. Compared to others it’s 2nd to worst, spyder being the worst one

[Zitrone3_2]

Again, KD is not a metric.
You say “prove it with statistics” i did and you just ignore it?

[губкагомик]

@Zitrone3_2

Prove its not like that. The burden of proof lies with you, not me

I’ve already provided evidence that, according to statistics, the Buk’s effectiveness is lower than the SAMP/T. I don’t care if you don’t consider that proof. Now, prove your words

@Zitrone3_2

because russia has a huge playercount so you will have russian SPAA’s all trying to kill one plane.
→ Kills will be split over multiple players → lower K/D per player

[Zitrone3_2]

@губкагомик

I’ve already provided evidence that, according to statistics, the Buk’s effectiveness is lower than the SAMP/T. I don’t care if you don’t consider that proof. Now, prove your words

Why does Italian, French and Swedish 2a4 have a better KD then the german one? By your logic they should be better as they have better KD.

[ТрезвымНеИграю]

What is the metric then??

[Λ_N_G_Ξ_L]

and this is very interesting
In some match spwan a Buk M3 will die more than 2

[Zitrone3_2]

Actually looking rationally at the differences like missile metrics

[ТрезвымНеИграю]

What’s the point of good missile if it has bad radar that takes 2-3 business days to update

[Zitrone3_2]

you literally have an aesa Tracking radar?