So we will get ANOTHER russian spaa?

[Kievskiy_Minipig]

@PyroAddict

Literally TADS positioning requires skill to be both concealed and useful enough on altitude to get a good scan of the airspace.

Its not that hard tho? So saying it requires skill is exaggerating imo.

Also you use this “skill” at start of battle and it becomes useless after you spawn launchers wherever you need. For rest of battle its lmb/rmb gaming which has nothing to do with skill.

[губкагомик]

@Zitrone3_2

because russia has a huge playercount so you will have russian SPAA’s all trying to kill one plane.
→ Kills will be split over multiple players → lower K/D per player

Prove it with statistics, not words

@губкагомик

Or do you have some other metric that would better demonstrate the effectiveness of the vehicles?

[小小格温大受影响]

@губкагомик

That’s why the Pantsir has a higher K/D than the Buk

And the FSAF SAMP/T has a higher K/D than the Pantsir and the Buk.

This is Russian player problem

[Zitrone3_2]

@губкагомик

Prove it with statistics, not words

Prove its not like that. The burden of proof lies with you, not me

@губкагомик

Or do you have some other metric that would better demonstrate the effectiveness of the vehicles?

Kills per Match would be good, but we dont have that

[PyroAddict]

@Kievskiy_Minipig

Its not that hard tho? So saying it requires skill is exaggerating imo.

I’m not so sure, but when players tell american mains to improve their positioning with their Abrams, I’m pretty sure they imply that positioning requires skill.

And I agree with that approach, positioning and concealment (with a huge radar such as the BUK’s) requires skill, simple as.

[Zitrone3_2]

@губкагомик

Prove it with statistics, not words

Why is the French Leo 2a4’s KD higher then the german one?

By your logic K/D is ONLY influenced by how good the vehicle is, so are they that diffrent?

[ТрезвымНеИграю]

Ok if you want arguments here you go. Compared to others it’s 2nd to worst, spyder being the worst one

[Zitrone3_2]

Again, KD is not a metric.
You say “prove it with statistics” i did and you just ignore it?

[губкагомик]

@Zitrone3_2

Prove its not like that. The burden of proof lies with you, not me

I’ve already provided evidence that, according to statistics, the Buk’s effectiveness is lower than the SAMP/T. I don’t care if you don’t consider that proof. Now, prove your words

@Zitrone3_2

because russia has a huge playercount so you will have russian SPAA’s all trying to kill one plane.
→ Kills will be split over multiple players → lower K/D per player

[Zitrone3_2]

@губкагомик

I’ve already provided evidence that, according to statistics, the Buk’s effectiveness is lower than the SAMP/T. I don’t care if you don’t consider that proof. Now, prove your words

Why does Italian, French and Swedish 2a4 have a better KD then the german one? By your logic they should be better as they have better KD.

[ТрезвымНеИграю]

What is the metric then??

[小小格温大受影响]

and this is very interesting
In some match spwan a Buk M3 will die more than 2

[Zitrone3_2]

Actually looking rationally at the differences like missile metrics

[ТрезвымНеИграю]

What’s the point of good missile if it has bad radar that takes 2-3 business days to update

[Zitrone3_2]

you literally have an aesa Tracking radar?

[小小格温大受影响]

Buk have this game best msl
From fairness You can’t ask Russia to everything best

[губкагомик]

First of all, don’t change the subject; and second, for “clones,” the median is used, which is exactly what shows the vehicle statistics.

[小小格温大受影响]

And buk 's launch vehicle have radar
This is other SPAA dose not have

[Zitrone3_2]

@губкагомик

First of all, don’t change the subject

It is the same subject. you claimed KD is a metric that determines the effectiveness of a vehicle and it has nothing to do with skill. then why can the same vehicle have different KDs?

[губкагомик]

You’re the one changing the subject from SAM systems to MBTs, and ‘clones’ at that. The fact that this is about statistics doesn’t change the fact that you’re switching the topic of conversation