I mean yeah that’s the whole problem, there’s no countermeasure for SACLOS aside from Electronic Warfare measures, so when you combine that with the Pantsir’s multi-launch capability and range you get the best anti air in game. Meanwhile everyone else has to cope with ARHs being useless against Helicopters and easily notched/multipath’d by Jets.
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Let’s be real bro, this won’t be the case for the pantsir-sm
I’m just genuinely never going higher than 11.3 after this update, or at least never using the typhoon in ground again
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at top tier i still take the stormer AD over the skysabre because of the impracticality of NATO sam systems of top tier. They may have more range than the old pantsir but miss their target more often than hit.
Stinger missiles with a non functional IRCCM and a 25mm rotary canon is more practical than CAMM will ever be unless they fix Mpath and notching gates
i refuse to go above 8.7 most the time now that the 9.0 britain lineup was put up due to major skill issue by major nation scrubs.
I like a lot of the vehicles i have at top tier, the game is just too unfair with all the overhyped russian crud all over the place. Russia hasnt been capable of matching NATO tech for 50 years and its ok if a nations top tier ends before top tier if things realistically cant make it there. Fake buffs and kneecapping of others isnt the way to do it
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the apache guardian dircm works the same as on the mi28
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I believe the double standard we have in game is that, any non-Russian team is expected to have both SACLOS/BR units to take down helicopters and ARH/IR units to take down jet fighters and strike aircraft along with missile/bomb volley spam. But Russia doesn’t need to do this because the Pantsir can already do everything and this AA will be the same but even better.
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so why did us get the nasams if its the same as the claws but better
its the same argument u use
usa got nasams because Sweden got nasams.
Sweden got nasams because the elde is and was useless
@bvvd
20km is against drones heading toward them.
18km is against a static target.
Also Pantsir can’t frag the meta CAS platforms.
This is because it wouldn’t make sense that the nation that generally produces subpar high-tech equipment suddenly produces the best DLIRCM.
My man over here trying his best to come up with the most insane takes.
The Pantsir is arguably the best SAM system against DLIRM helis and is still extremely potent against jets.
@Grossaaaa
Telling us you can’t out maneuver Pantsirs with even F-16s when I and thousands of others have done so with inferior jets isn’t good for your argument.
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We’re not in english class, you don’t havbe to make stuff up for an assignment.
I’ve never said that I can’t dodge missiles. I have said that the Pantsir is the best SAM against DLIRCM helis and that it’s still extremely good against jets.
But keep living in your dreamland. Remember when you said that we don’t need 14.3 for jets? Or 14.0? Or 13.7? Or that the Mig-29 is never going to get R73s? Or that the Mig-29 is better than the Mirage 2000 in a dogfight?
You have consistently wrong takes. Maybe stop typing for once and use that brain of yours.
@Grossaaaa
The correct question is: “Alvis, do you remember when you said we needed 14.7 for jets? 15.0?”
“Do you remember when you said the 12.7 Mig-29s won’t have R-73s?”
“Alvis, do you remember when you said Mirage 2000 can beat a Mig-29 in a dogfight?”
Cause the Mirage 2000 is better than the Mig-29; we need BR 15.0; and the 12.7 Mig-29s still have R-60Ms.
And it turns out all those things are still true.
Weird that claim those basic good takes are wrong.
You can 1v1 me in your Mig-29 and I’ll prove to you that Mirage 2000 is better like I have to countless others.
So going by that might it be possible that the only reason why the BUKs stats are so bad compared to the other SPAAs is because russia is the only tech tree that has 2 viable SPAA at top tier and they compete for kills?
You should delete old posts if you wanna lie man.
I am too lazy to search for the other stuff, but it’s literally the same for anyone wondering.
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@Grossaaaa Would you look at that, me stating that Mig-29 is better around 1000kph:
But as I said, if you think I’m wrong about Mirage 2000 being a better dogfighter, you’re more than welcome to prove Statshark and all Mirage 2000 pilots wrong.
Been calling the Mirage 2000 better since 2020:
We will forget about China
what about it? looks good, a propper top tier spaa would be nice but i think they are in a place where they dont have to much but not to little