That is kinda what i thought, because the missile is specs wise probably the best ARH SPAA missile in the game
Yes, so the performance of the Buk is actually not as good as a super radar SPAA like the Manba, but it’s only a difference like 95 Score versus 100 Score。。。。 will，The Buk is actually already very terrifying; it has three independent life systems,very big missle,and its launcher also has another super radar.
However, it’s clear that Gaijin wants Russian vehicles to be 200 Score.
I thought it fixed?
Nah, I just used it earlier, it has the problem and I have to get usd to it
Since the buk is better than the israel spaa, of course russia needs another spaa to compensate. No bias my friend
I was never dishonest, think of what I could mean next time
2S38 is better than the puma is a crazy statement, but it is true that you have played it and therefor not dishonest on that point, unsure when it comes to the statement around t series and leopards tho
What’s shameless about a 12.7 Pantsir when all other tech trees have better SPAA at that BR?
USA has never been nuked since 2022.
Abrams is stronger than ever, they have stronger helicopters than ever before, stronger CAS, and stronger SPAA.
USA even has a light tank for use at high ranks now.
USA had OP CAS for 4 years, and Gaijin gave us nothing to counter them.
USSR gets OP CAS and we get new hard counters to said CAS within 6 months.
None of these are my takes, none of these are my opinions.
By the time F-14B got countered in ground RB with Pantsir, we had F-16C.
And by the time F-16C got countered players learned to boom & zoom low altitude.
But you know… Su-34 gets added and we finally get SPAA that counters F-16C, Rafale, Su-34, etc.
The launchers literally have an aesa radar which cause the missile to ignore multipath when you have a current lock… It has one of the strongest radars because of that…
Yes the search radar is slow but that doesnt matter as you only need it for the first detaction, the updates do the launchers
I prefer the PUMA due to being able to launch a missile at a faraway target and then just go away, no need for staying exposed… And the fact it’s armour is much better than the 2S38’s. The leopard, I prefer it because of it’s reverse speed, extra crew member, AMAZING gun depression and it’s amazing shell
I have explained my point
Wait, why y’all hating on a Pantsir at 12.7 anyway? A single vehicle SAM at 12.7… all I got is its got better missiles and on a different chassis, that’s it, limited range - can’t shoot down most helis (if they stay at the furthest spawn from the map)
Are you just saying random stuff or something? Helo’s further spawn is 7-9 km away from the battlefield, Pantsir has a minimum range of 18km. Helos are food for any Pantsir with two functional braincells.
*maximum
depends on the map and player, if the heli is 8km away and just spamming f&f missiles while spamming chaff and instantly dips down into cover after 3-5 seconds there is not much a pantsir can do, or any spaa
No spaa can, if you want we can go in a custom and if we choose a propper map no spaa you play will be able to kill me
Minimum in the sense of guaranteed launch range, 18km is minimum, 20km is maximum under ideal conditions.
SACLOS is unaffected by chaff. But of course everything depends on players that’s applicable to everything in this game, we are talking about base advantages. Pantsir is arguably the best AD unit in the game being a jack of all trades. If they made ARH capable of reliably taking down helos and IIR unaffected by DIRCM maybe that would change.
SACLOS is, but the Pantsir’s tracking radar not. It sees every chaff pop and sometimes switches track.
I agree
18km is not the minimum launch distance tho
so go and tell nato countries to change their doctrine and invest in shorads
They wont since they already got the small patriot type of missile
I mean, honestly I don’t know why you’d lock a helicopter in the first place that will just make your missile hit the ground aside from the fact that they can barely maneuver so just mouse aim that thing you know.
Tiny linguistic mismatch but you get the idea, true maximum range is 20km.