not really wouldnt consider the BUK a dominate SPAA just like how the claws was buns and got swapped for the NASAAM the BUK should have same treatment
Glad we agree on that point.
You do know that ANYTHING with radar has A LOT more range than JAGM? So basically if you pop up on its radar you are dead basically
Interesting takes, unfortunately we can check your stats to see the following:
Those are not a lot of german vehicles, let alone games on them.
You have also never played the VJTF Puma.
You’re also doing worse in the only Leopard version you played compared to either of your T-80’s:
Leopard 2PL: 0.40 KDR
T-80-UE1: 0.73 KDR
T-80UD: 0.65 KDR
Not necessarily trying to statshame here, just showing others that you’re being dishonest about your own experience in vehicles you claim to have played when you didnt.
At this point I just believe they went completely shameless on what they think is better for the game as a whole, but rather what’s best for their pockets and their —I’d say little— egos.
The most played nation throughout 2022 was the US? No problem, let’s nuke them progressively with ocasional meta shifts back to them so the irrelevance becomes gradual. All of this was for balance, of course.
The most played nation throughout 2025 was Russia? Good news comrade! Another premium, an SPAA and Su-35s w/R-37Ms in June to celebrate (as if they need any of that in the first place, but anyways)!
Might have went to the stepmom’s house to play the leopard though /s
and you do know that helicopters are very good at keeping terrain between them and radars, to get fairly close, and that the US has by far the most effective SEAD/DEAD force in the world
Which doesnt include helicopters… US fough only flip flops and rocks until now with their helis! I guess for a reason…
and you are just ignoring that the original pantsir is still one of the best AA in the game for closer ranges, which is where the BUK has problems
yeah but to be fair its only good for close range shooting munitions it cant beat the long range glide bomb strat
lmao, you do know that the people they were fighting still had access to some small AA systems like manpads and such, which is what is commonly sighted as among the biggest threats to helicopters
we also have a good recent example of the US being able to get a large group of helicopters through defended airspace without any losses
it can? the glide bombs still have to get into its range
and it is still the best AA for intercepting munitions in the game
The greatest helicopters the world has ever seen, maybe ever…yeah right
what are you even talking about here
The fact that US helicopters only ever saw real oposition when they went against Serbia in 1999 which ended famously for them as we all have no idea about as usual for US loses
if you drop a bunch of glide bombs on it and fire off some missiles it cant shoot them all down
its only good at close range which is not current meta its the only SPAA that can counter FNF helis somewhat purely due to it being a CIWS related to its naval counter part
ah yes, a great false statement
I think you are vastly underestimating how many it can shoot down
the only plane I know of that can reasonably overwhelm a competent pantsir would be the F15E
guiding 4 very fast missiles at a time is something people seem to underestimate
Only when Russian win rates on certain vehicles aren’t good, they add new vehicles to compensate. When it comes to every other nation, this doesn’t apply.
Tim Cook:only apple can do~
bvvd:only russian can do~
In fact, I think Gaijin became worried after Wargaming was nationalised by Putin; they fear that if they don’t show enough how much they love Russia, their own company might also be seized by Putin.

