So we will get ANOTHER russian spaa?

because my comment is not an opinion, its a fact, hence it does not require public support to be true.
while his comment was an opinion, a claim, it does need backing and support.

goes to show that simply knowing how to read doesnt mean you are actually intelligent.

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“me good, he not, no reverse”. Uhu. Of course.

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sigh…


Sure thing buddy

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All of that is true but the discussions here still matter for the people taking part in them. Ofc we can account each and every decision by Gaijin to “i like money” but asking questions and making discussions about additions still matters especially when they are just blatant money grabs

So true!

Play Russia at top tier, and you win 80% of the games in under 3 minutes! Very balanced!

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You mean exactly like the new SPAA… which people only complain about the BUK… which isn’t the best SPAA.

People are acting like this new SPAA is god and shilling for it like they’re being paid by the manufacturer to do so.

When in reality… it’s just a new vehicle that people will like to have and play. It’s not game changing, it’s filler. Neat filler.

War Thunder is not about “need”, and projecting “need” onto War Thunder is silly.

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Its a straight up improvement over an already very well performing SPAA for a tree that has absolutely no shortage of SPAAs while others have glaring holes in their SPAA coverage.

Game balance is very much about “need” tho.

I get that but they dont care…we can discuss, moan, cry, scream do whatever…in the end its all about the money and as soon as it dries up, game announces “We are shutting down the War Thunder project due to bla bla. But we are starting a new one which you can buy for only 79,99€ and premiums and stuff” and the cycle starts all over again…

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Ok but with that fatalistic attitude we could just forego the forum and bug report website alltogether

Exactly! They dont give a rats ass about it all anyway! Only time WT actually did something was during the big meltdown on steam and wherever! Why? Because the sales dropped, the investors asked “What the f is going on?” and someone higher up in the chain got scared and it had to calm down!

This is the same as “peaceful demonstrations”…none cares, just ignore them! Start a riot, everyone pays attention

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This doesn’t change game balance at all. Pretending it does is silly.

America didn’t “need” M1A2 SEP, but it got it cause it’s neat. America has THE largest top tier ground lineup in the game, so much so that the 11th crew slot still isn’t enough if you want to bring 2 CAS options if you have the 2 premium HC Abrams as well.

And if you include tanks equal to T-80U, that adds IPM1 and M1A1.

@diverzant
Gaijin never did anything in response to a Steam related situation.
The Steam related situation started AFTER Gaijin backpedaled the economy update.

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But the situation yielded at least some sort of response from them, did it? Thats my point but I wont exapnd on this topic anymore, I can already feel Saurons eye watching me

All it got was a blog, nothing more.
The only things that occurred were from the 15,000 respondents to the special form that was made public 6 hours prior to the Steam incident.

Thats complete conjecture. Its an improvement over the still used Pantsir, depending on the BR its added it might absolutely have an impact on balance

Honestly, the person that gets shot down by the current Pantsir will get shot down by the new one aswell! With current weapons, escaping the Pantsir is not really hard! Especially since everyone can detect a lock and a launch from the Pantsir so long range shots make no sense, short range is gonna remain unchainged…so balance stays the same

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The only way a Pantsir like vehicle can impact balance is if it’s 11.7.
Also what improvement?
If it’s missiles it’s going to be 12.3 - 12.7 regardless, and likely closer to 12.7.

Yeah the new one has double the range and speed ofc they will be shot down by it lol

Also its not about killing planes, the Pantsir is currently not good at that but at intercepting munitions, especially the ones that are not going mach 2 and the new one is going to be better at that.

The current Pantsir is 12.0 and has impact, what are you on about?

Correct me if im wrong but that looks like the newer version with AESA radar and faster missiles, that sounds like an improvement.

How often do you shoot down anything past 10km in the current Pantsir which is half its range? If they are oblivious, easily…if they react or dont even get that close, never…its gonna be the same with the new one except you now have also the weaponary that can boink the pantsir from 20km range

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You dont, thats my point. The current one offers little threat against top BR CAS but is good against munitions. The new one might very well be a different story with newer missiles and radar as it is a plain upgrade over the older one which still has a raison d’être otherwise it wouldnt be the most played SPAA in 12.0+