well i seem to always face 2s38s and bmp2s so that tactic has been beaten out of me
bruh whot?
dm33 has 408mm pen
and no, dtw has 491mm pen
500 meters, 60 degress.
Take the listed stat card number and multiply by 2.
why?
60º penetration is in general a better basis for the penetration of a round at this BR, since highly angled armor is typically the main protection of tanks.
Since line of sight thickness at 60º is exactly doubled (cos(60º)=1/2, so if you have a 100 mm thick armor plate angled at 60º, the LoS thickness is exactly 200 mm), you account for this by doubling the 60º penetration to get the LoS thickness that your round can go through at this angle.
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Whoever calls ZLT better than Radwagen never played with ZLT lol. Its one of the worst wheeled vehicles ig coupled with PTL. Rooikats are like thousand times better and they aint anything extra either.
I appreciate what you say, but I own the two tanks easily. The best one is German for several reasons. The first is the German tank is smaller in size. Faster in movement. It does not have ammunition in the tower. The return speed of the tank is 38 compared to the Chinese tank, which has a reverse speed of approximately 8.5, and this is very bad for a tank without armor and depends on agility in survival.
capability wise, player ability does not factor into the vehicles own
i can acknowledge that and have, but the fact of the matter is that capability of the weapons systems and FCS far outshine the rad90 since the zlt can engage at far longer and with more penetration.
not to mention that most of the time in large tubs like the 90 and ptlo2, you are engaged at the side by autocannons and AT cannons alike (flanking can be blamed for that)
I agree with you the only superiority that the Chinese tank has is only firepower but you are talking about a light vehicle if you are going to compare firepower the strongest is the combat tanks light vehicles the most important thing for them is the speed of movement and the ability to turn around the enemy team and hit it from behind and in this suit and this br the firepower of the German tank is enough and more
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not even considering the FCS?
you have missed an important factor of the RadKampfwagen, it has a setup of spaced armour which makes it fairly invulnerable frontally to autocannons, wheras the Zlt11 does not have any meaningful pretection. The ZLT also suffers from itts poor gun depression, poor reverse and its large turning circle, it has certain disadvantages over the Radkampfwagen, then has thermals, a better round and some other situational advantages to compensate
i guess i have to apologise to all the 7 people who came and pointed out the same thing?
by pure capability and in the hands of a skilled player, the ZLT can and does perform better. i dont want it to be nerfed
i want the rad to be justified
It is justified through the tradeoffs between both of them, if all maps were sniping at extreme ranges with Thermals you’d have a point.
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False, you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
Rad90 has a 26.9HP/ton which allows it to get to the good/flanking positions first, while ZLT11’s forward mobility is nothing more than fine. You also completely ignored how important stuff like gun depression and reverse speed are to light vehicles.
Okay, and ?
If it’s reverse speed gets buffed it could go up, but at the moment it’s perfectly fine where it is. (same BR as Rad90)
again you dont read do you?
I DONT WANT IT NERFED NOR DO I WANT IT AT A HIGHER BR.
even with the buff to reverse
i want the rad to be lower
You clearly missed my point. ZLT11 and Rad90 are trading blows, and that’s to be expected from two vehicles at the same BR.
I don’t see a reason to have Rad90 below ZLT11 in BR until changes come to either of those two.
you didnt have one to begin with, i acknowledge all the faults of the ZLT but you dont acknowledge ll the faults of the RAD.
the fact of the matter is, you have an opinion set and nothing will convince you otherwise, cognitive dissonance 101. definitely not the fact that the ZLT can spot the rad way sooner than the other way around (thermals)