Such a simple comparison does not work for horsepower and weight. I mean, even with the stock values as shown there, the Rad has over 20 hp/ton, the difference in horsepower far outweights the increase in weight. This part of the comparison is very poorly done.
Forwards top speed, yes, but reverse speed is not, which is arguably more important that the forwards speed here. Radkampfwagen goes -35 km/h in reverse, the ZTL11 goes only -8.5 km/h.
fair enough but its only 23 vs 17 (hp/t)
as for reverse speed, thats still manageable since its not the abysmal T-72 reverse.
plus the other factors really dont give any room for doubt that the zlt is 10.3 worthy if the rad dosent go down
Not really when you factor in that this is a vehicle that relies on mobility above all, specially to get away from danger. Having a poor reverse speed is not good in such a vehicle.
26.95 vs 19.57
It cannot be understated how much faster the Rad 90 is over any other wheeled vehicle other than the Type 93
It’s that much worse because of how much faster the ZLT can go forwards over the T-72
And the protection is vastly superior on the Rad 90, both in armour and survivability, the ZLT is huge which offers some ability to take a hit but has a huge ammo rack behind the loader in the turret.
The two are not equal but you are massively underselling the Rad 90.
You mean the armor that leaves you vulnerable to overpressure by HEAT, and can at best make low caliber APDS bounce from the front straight into the turret which of course kills the turret crew
its a light tank as is the radkampf, HEAT kills em both.
and apds is more damaging to the radkampf.
atleast the ztl has the ability to bounce it from the front
the ZLTs glacis is only sloped 75 degrees, the chance of most APDS shells bouncing off that is incredibly low, let alone APFSDS which is quite standard at this BR.
Yes, HEAT can kill both what a surprise but that isn’t the point. Rad has particularly heavy armor for it’s type of a vehicle with spaced armor all over it’s turret and front. Doesn’t really work against APFSDS, has limited effect on APDS, but it is very effective against HE, HESH and reduces HEAT damage massively. ZLT gets instantly destroyed by most explosives as long as you don’t shoot it straight into the fuel tank. It also gets absolutely skewered by anything bigger than old autocannons, and at 9.7 you don’t really run into hordes of BTR80s anymore
i dont dispute that, and as i said, i dont want anything nerfed, but when you compare what the zlt has over the rad… your position of justifying why both are equal is a hard one to defend
So my comment have it’s truth, on which your just applying the “it’s a game” stupidly, without even knowing that today the game is unequal at any BR possible?
Found me one IRL war, instead of insulting people.
Buddy when you try the ZLT you will realise its shit. The radkampf is awesome. i would personally take the Radkampf over the ZLT in 90% of cases.
So your ZLT advantages:
Has thermals: 100% a advantage, although i have personally started to use it less as i got better at the game, might be different for others. I only use it when sniping, which i rarely do.
Shell: 100% better, although the DM33 in this battlerating is just perfect, the only advantage the ZLT has is if you choose to bring it up to like 11.0+ where DM33 will struggle 100%.
ATGM: ATGM are dogshit after the update, and with the ZLT’s turrent elevation speed and only 5 vertical guidance, it is awful to use.
HEVT: Can be used against low flying hovering helis 100% (again shit elevation, so they cant be too high), although if the heli is that still/hovering, a regular APFSDS will still hit.
ZLT armor: Yes it has better angels and will get some ricochets, but in my experience the ZLT gets one shot 90% of the times (ammo in the turrent is so easy to hit), you will 100% survive hits in the radkampf more since there is no ammo in there, and they cant kill all the crew in 1 shot from the front.
Radkampf:
Is WAAAY faster, trust me when you try them both (although i havnt played it after the wheeled traction changes, it was one of the fastest vehicles in the game).
It can actually turn.
It can actually reverse.
It actually has barrel depression.
Its smaller (ZLT is hugemungus)
In conclusion:
Yes a better shell would 100% be nice, means i would bring it out more often in top tier, but its perfect at the BR it sits in.
The thermals is 100% shitty to miss, but when i play the radkampf i rush with it, so i dont use thermals when playing like that, which makes in a non issue for me.
ZLT11:
276x2, 552mm penetration.
Gunner thermals & a laser warning system.
19.6HP per ton.
5 degrees gun depression [makes the ATGM useless].
Armor: Stops 12.7.
Size: House.
Reverse speed: lol
Radkampwagen:
230x2, 460mm penetration.
Gunner night vision, laser range finder.
27HP per ton.
9 deg gun depression.
Armor: Stops light auto-cannon fire.
Size: Less of a house.
Reverse speed: Yes.
