The a-10 has black and white tv seeker. turning on the thermals drops resolution but it does have gen 1 thermals ( i keep forgetting about the tech tree a-10 ) but even then flying at higher altitude with gen 1 thermals isnt much of an advantage.
It is an extreme advantage, it literally allows you to find targets fast. You just lock on to white dots and fire.
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And even if we are talking about the a10 without thermals, the situation is even worse there. 10.0 plane with 10Km+ atgms. Endless flares. Aim-9L. All at 10.0 (9L is better than garbage R-60M in every way, its literally an aim-9M without IRCCM)
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You can see the contrails of the a6 coming as most fly around 20k feet to drop bombs. This is in the range of spaa’s. if you can see the su-25 at 20k feet they are 20 miles away so its just a dot in the sky and out of the range of spaa.
İf you fly below 5400 meters you will not create contrail.
I never fly above 5400 meters.
I stay around 5000 meters altitude.
İf you fly above that it’s skill issue/you deserved to be shot down.
Player lack of skill doesn’t justify A10 A6E being this low BR.
But we all know how bad American mains are.
Most of them are so clueless that they lose dogfights to a full weapon load 2 ton extra load carrying Su-25SM3 in their F-16C with UFO flight model.
Now don’t tell me Su-25 is an op dogfighter as well.
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OMG you guys whine and bitch so much! Not every nation can be the best in every BR. Just play another nation, or another BR and the problem is solved.
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I have no idea what your talking about. We are not whining or bitching. we are having a discussion about aspects of the game. Most people in high BR’s do play other nations. You are the only in the thread bitching and crying.
İf American players used their planes properly no Su-25 could ever fly. F-16C is the best CAS because it will literally out dogfight any other plane (except gripen).
Also invisible 9M is op in ground RB.
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i never said anything about it being and overpowered dog fighter. My argument has always been the range of the weapon it uses and the lack of counters available to it. Hell even the pantsir cant shoot down the su-25 at its stand off range.
I know, I was being sarcastic. I was just showing how useless and clueless most American mains are. İf they actually used their brains in their F-16Cs no Su-25 could ever fly.
When I see an F-16 bombing my team I get in my Su-27, not pantsir.
Or if I’m playing Germany, I get in my Mig-29G
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There really is no reason to insult people.
Useless/Clueless Is not an insult.
Everyday top posts in warthunder subreddit are about useless/clueless teammates (or russian bias and crying and Germany sufferz)
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Well this is why doing CAP and air spawn kill nowadays are more fun i got average air kill in GRB more than air RB already i feeding my Gripen well
Considering that it sits at 12.7 while the Su-25SM3 somehow gets away with only, 11.7. Should it not be expected to be better? And its not like it has access to any of the actually spicy ordnance it could, let alone things like the GBU-103, -105, AGM-154 / -158, GBU-39B/B / -53/B or AGM-88E.
What do US lineups in the 10.7~11.7 range do, if they don’t have the A-6E? Since they otherwise arbitrary lack access to SALH ordnance.
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Get in a 10.3 F-5C and kill it. Hell, any jet with flares will kill it. Unlike F-16C with invisible thus unflareable missiles.
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F-4E with AGM-65S
Supersonic
Has radar
Can dogfight well with agile eagle on the E variant.
Or
10.7
F-5E
Literally one of the best dogfighters in the game, no plane will ever touch you.
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You got a Tech Tree option, or does everything require premiums?
I literally stated any plane with flares will do it. Because if you avoid the R-73 with flares the su-25 is defenseless.
F-8 crusader
F-4E
F-5E
Mig-21 Bis
Mirage F-1
Kfir
Av-8
Harrier Gr-7
Even the new 8.7 alpha jet will beat the Su-25SM3
The list goes on endlessly.
All of them below the BR of Su-25SM
F-5E being full BR below.
I gave the example of F-5C because it is such a low BR plane and every American player has it.
Why the hell did you think I meant you specifically need F-5C to kill Su-25? You don’t.
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Same problem as Longbow: ARH seeker.
It always have a problem when in come to western weaponry isn’t it?